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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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Edit: I'm no good at linking to HN apparently, made link more stable.

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Vote for Sailor SEGA for president and I'll install tiny electric shock devices into all keyboards to zap anyone who misuses devil's advocate to express their own worldview at an arms length:

Many school curriculums teach that science proves that gender isn't a binary and is divorced from sex, and they often implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) also go further to say that it is hateful to believe otherwise. [...] I'm arguing the point, not my own conviction.

(later on)

I would not support the right for a person to select their legal classification arbitrarily though, it should be based on objective biological conditions, such as hermaphroditism.

I'm shocked. Shocked that the person who advocated for transphobic people is, themselves, transphobic. Well not that shocked.

[–] 200fifty@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well all I know is I definitely trust the research and knowledge and informed-ness about biological sex of the person who uses the word "hermaphroditism" with regards to humans. Now that's a person who knows what they're talking about, I think to myself

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

We should base medical science teachings on science! All this modern claptrap could easily be replaced if we go back to the four humors.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gee it sure is weird how many of the comments pushing back against transphobia ended up flagged or hidden (a, b, c), while comments claiming that trans people are abnormal and unnatural are A-OK 🤔

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago

I had a long sneer typed out but my shitty Lemmy app deleted my draft. Fuck the orange site and it's sophists. The whole prison subthread is probably one of the most disgusting things I've read from that shit hole in recent memory.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What science contradicts internal moral guidance?

Many school curriculums teach that science proves that gender isn't a binary and is divorced from sex, and they often implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) also go further to say that it is hateful to believe otherwise.

chad "Yes." meme face

Those curricula are correct.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

They got absolutely shredded by the next comment too,

"Could you clarify what exactly your internal moral voice objects to? The school curriculums basically boil down to "Most people are either men or women. Some people aren't, and that's okay - you should still treat them like anyone else." Does your internal moral voice object to any part of that, or is it something else I am missing here?

Do you also disagree with schools teaching kids in a similar fashion about the existence of left-handed people, redheaded people, or handicapped people?"

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm arguing the point, not my own conviction.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"Science says the world is round, but my heart says otherwise."

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

Ow god those threads. The phobes are really grasping at straws.

[–] maol@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

this is just conversion therapy with extra steps.