If my 3D printer has a problem, it's not working properly.
When my 2D printer throws a fit, it's because it's doing its job of being a vicious piece of shit perfectly.
Important difference.
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3D printer: failed the print because you tried to print a whole ass gun in 30 minutes. 2D printer: failed the print because you tried to print a picture of a duck and the DRM detected it as a copyrighted image.
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The thing is, we definitely could have 100% reliable printers with good reparabilty, but capitalism gotta capitalism
Just get a color laser printer, learn how to refill toner carts and buy or flash the chips. Even a monkey can do that! /s
Scraping those fucking chips off the cartridges like a crackhead scraping resin is a nightmare.
My last flash was a random ass script I found on github and 3 alligator clips one the chip pads to reset it, jabky af but felt soooo nice being able to reset it on my own.
we have nailed 2D printers. enshittification in the name of profits ruined them. i recommed epson eco-tank printers by the way. no subscription and one 10€ bottle lasts for hundreds of pages.
Well, lets not forget hidden codes on printed paper so rhey could be traced back to a specific device. Thats not really nailing it since that was before enshittification.
You're acting like that wasn't a feature specifically added... That's textbook enshit
Some 3D printer companies tried enshittifying, like DaVinci. Fortunately, they got out maneuvered by companies making printers that were almost cheap garbage, but just good enough, like Creality.
A lot of that has to do with open sourcing the designs, and that it doesn't take a major research arm to design a 3d printer. Getting a 2d printer to align ink to 300dpi is pretty difficult, and even more so with color. 300dpi isn't even that impressive. That industry is tied up in patents and trade secrets, and it's difficult for a new competitor to emerge. Conversely, I know people who designed top notch 3d printers out of their personal workshop.
what did davinci try doing, I think I've heard the name like one or twice and never again
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It's funny because 3d printers are cheaper to purchase, maintain, and supply for
Yeah, but try printing out your kid's book report on one.
Totally doable, use a multicolor printer and print it like 3 layers thick - you'll get thin flexible plastic sheets.
Not actually practical, but totally doable lol
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Easy enough to convert it to a pen plotter. You can 3d print the attachment first, then use it to have it move a pen around with G-code.
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With how much more reliable and easy to use 3d printers are, I'm saying we need to move on to 4d printers
Yeah, 3D printer stuff has lots of open source and open hardware going on so its a big improvement over 2D in that aspect
Page comes out decaying, crumbling, “send help” message scrawled across it because you forgot to refill the time dilation cartridge
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Actually, the problem isn't that we haven't nailed 2D printers. The problem is we have. Which is why they have to do artificial bullshit like the LOW CYAN thing to make money selling you ink that you do not actually need.
Yeah. If you get a high-end kyocera or other office printer, that bad boy will print 30k pages a year without complaint. It will cost you $800-$15,000 but it wont make your life hell.
If you spend $79.95 on a hp inkjet, you curse yourself.
This is the way. If you just need B&W, a decent $200 laser printer will last forever on one cartridge. I've had my Brother printer for 10 years or so and only replaced the toner twice.
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And I'm over here, with a laser printer, laughing at everyone's "printer not working" issues. Hasn't let me down ever and is a speed demon.
And I'm over here, ~~with a laser printer~~ with 20 year old HP inkjet printer, laughing at everyone’s “printer not working” issues. Hasn’t let me down ever ~~and is a speed demon.~~ but the high-DPI setting takes 20 minutes per A4 page to create near-laser quality.
Laser printers are definitely the way to go, but still not 100% without problems. Every once in a while I get some bullshit messages about my magenta toner not being compatible, but unplugging it for a minute seems to fix it.
Which one you got?
A Brother, no idea what model or anything, googled a bit and took the most recommended color one
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The problem is we deliberately make everything wrong so that it breaks. You can't buy a good product once capitalism gets into full swing, because everything that justified its existence was a lie and the only thing that matters is money - not the world, not the people, just this fake paper bullshit that isn't really worth anything and is just a status symbol that allows you to buy more status symbols.
When most people use the word removedry, this is the sort of thing they're describing, not gay people. The word was evolving in this direction before everyone decided to pull a "satanic panic" on it.
edit: lmfao the word is autoremoved, case in point. why we doin so much censorship here? reddit is not a model to follow
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My 3D printer works better than my 2D printer
Which is exactly why you should use your 3D printer as a 2D plotter to print things.
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In my 10 years of being a High School Robotics teacher i find that my group has less problems with the 3d printers than the 2d printers.
Colour laser printers have been around for long enough that they're a decent value. If you buy cheap HP inkjet slop, don't blame capitalism when they try to wring you for more money
I have one of these at work. It throws a fit roughly 5 times a day.
One occasional issue is that it claims it has a blockage, it doesn't, it wants you to open and close one of the doors.
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The irony is that making an Open Source 3D Printer is far more accessible and affordable than making an Open Source 2D printer.
I wonder how right-to-repair will change the printer market.
Probably why they are fighting it so hard
No, 2d printer tech is fine. It's the ink scam cycle for them that are the problem. There's literally no functional reason they couldn't all use the exact same few cartridges. Capitalism ruins everything.
Capitalism RUINED the printer
we should have stopped making new printers after the HP LaserJet 4, it's all been downhill since then
Resin printers are the laser printers (in a few cases, literally) of the 3D world.
Filament are the inkjets, super likely for something to go horribly wrong because of a tiny miscalculation.
Yeah except the ink is super toxic and will make your room smell awful and give you cancer for touching the final product for resin printers which generally isn't true of your book report
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Theres nothing inherently wrong with traditional 3D printers though? You can get high reliability from multiple printers on the market.
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Carmack, drop that Meta already, it's time for a 2,5D printer!
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