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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 97 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still don't know whether you're supposed to hit those and I also don't know if it's normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It doesn't really matter, they don't expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

[–] mnglw@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha's

it's infuriating

[–] onion@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you should do what the majority of people would do

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[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Isn't it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won't notice before clicking continue, thus failing

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

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[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Answer wrong. The more of us humans that answer wrong, the less accurate we need to be to get past these stupid things. If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

[–] Flabbergassed@artemis.camp 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I unwittingly do that all the time. It often takes me 30+ Captchas before I finally get in. Then I've forgotten what the hell I was doing in the first place.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Do you usually do them quickly? Try slowing down next time, and you’ll get through with less captchas.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If google want me to do work for them, they can pay me.

They kinda do. This is the way the "free" model of internet services works. One of the reasons I think we should probably switch to expecting services to either be paid or non-profit, rather than ad/data-supported.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but the whole point of offering free services was just a ploy to crush competition with shorter runways to profit. Google could just sustain "free"services longer than their competitors could remain solvent.

Now that they've run most of their competitors into the ground, and now that people and businesses have become dependent on these services. They can bank off advertising and monetizing services with subscriptions.

Google business accounts used to be free, now you have to pay 9 bucks a month per employee, and you are subjected to even more advertising. Neither advertising nor subscriptions are going anywhere, especially now that subscription plans are so normalized.

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[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Whenever I get a capcha of anyone on a vehicle, I always make it a point to highlight the entirety of the driver too because I’m not going to just let Google train its self-driving vehicles to just ignore that every motorcycle has a rider on it.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst for me is the motorcycles one; half of the pictures are of motor scooters. Does it count those as motorcycles or is it counting on the user to know the difference because they’re not technically the same thing?

[–] Aloha_Alaska@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was about to make a similar comment but you beat me to it.

It recently showed me a bicycle as part of “select all motorcycles” so I didn’t pick it. And I failed. Twice. Finally picked the bicycle and it let me through. Guess the computer knows best.

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 7 points 1 year ago

It also does it the other way around. I failed recently for not calling a motorcycle a bicycle.

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[–] ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same shit with bikes. Is the rider part of the bike or not?

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Consindering that we're training Ai to be safe on the roads i would say the rider is the most vital part.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

This scenario pisses me off as I debate how pedantic to be.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate this. Every time, I seem to guess wrong.

Guess I'm a robot.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Then I would recommend Buster for you.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Its worst when you clearly see small traffic lights far back in the same pucture

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

I stress about the whole damn pole. If you showed me a picture of a traffic 🚦 on pole, and asked me what it was, I would say "a traffic light" not "a traffic loght and a traffic light pole"

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

This is what "AI training" looks like, folks. The companies developing AI constantly tells us how awesome it is, but it still needs the help of humans to recognize basic sh*t like cars, buses, crosswalks and traffic lights. They didn't choose those images by accident.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's funny that captchas are in a never ending arms race with bots trained on the same datasets capturing humans answering these stupid puzzles.

Pretty soon we're going to be drinking verification cans

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[–] LameName3000@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I started half-assing these a long time ago because they never fail anyway.

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[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try the audio captcha, those seem to have actual valid answers to them.

Funny enough, there's an extension that solves captchas by feeding that audio through a speech recognition algorithm. If anything it's more reliable than solving them manually

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, Buster Captcha Solver extension (in GitHub, Firefox, Chromium), but there are novadays also several others, which works in all type of capchas, using AI. Because of this, Captchas are obsolet since years, turning simply in annoying clickbaits. They can't avoid bots anymore.

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[–] mortonfox@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ones that get me are captchas saying select all squares with motorcycles when it is clearly a bicycle.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

There was an inflection point where captcha went from "demonstrate human vision" to "guess what the robot sees."

I got one asking for mountain ranges where one was plainly the tops of nearby trees. Which I got scolded for not clicking on.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah sometimes I'm like, well that's a moped, does it count as a motorcycle?

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They must have increased the difficulty at one point cause I ain't kidding, I cannot solve them anymore. I swear to god I donit correctly but it never works.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

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[–] Takios@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

That could happen when the system has already flagged you as unwanted traffic. It just keeps giving you Captchas to solve until you eventually give up voluntarily.

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[–] CarterDarter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do that on purpose, as an AI/Bot wouldn't hesitate.

Sometimes I'll be stuck on a captcha because I'm answering too fast, so I'll wait a delay then hit the answer and suddenly it stops going in circles

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought the reason is they want to see the limits of what a human considers qualify as answer to their question in order to better train their AI?

Edit: Although I guess nothing is stopping the answer from being Porque No los Dos?

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those fire hydrants will haunt me in nightmares

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, had to adapt my patterns so i don't get always flagged as bot.

[–] ghoscht@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What I hate so much more are the OpenAI captchas. Especially the goddamn rat ones

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's the text ones for me. I struggle to read the font on some of them so I can't tell the difference between a capital letter or a lowercase one so now if they've the text reader for blind/partially sighted people I'll use that.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I believe you haven't met the Yandex Captcha. I don't know anyone who passed that.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was me in the early days of captchas. Now I'm all like 360 no-scope BOOM HEADSHOT let me in motherfuckers!

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had one of the old fashioned distorted text ones the other day, but instead of something like "please enter the text above" it just said "are you human?" next to the text box. Naturally, I typed "yes" but that turned out to be the wrong answer.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

The correct answer is "or are you dancer?"

[–] Slow@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

I hate these captcha. You look at the picture, the edge of the traffic light or the motorcycle goes outside the box. You decide to click on the square where this tiny part of the image is and the message “This is incorrect!”.

Captcha without images from Cloudflare is even more infuriating. The so-called “Connection reliability check” takes quite a long time and this captcha appears often.

[–] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I cry, rage, yell then I refresh the the captcha

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience the least thorough interpretation seems to be the most accepted.

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