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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's pretty dumb. It's lame to accuse people of bigotry because they don't enjoy a TV show.

[–] Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The same actress was in orphan black and played multiple roles. It's not a woman issue, it's a bad show - https://youtu.be/5LQ7B4TFOu4?si=fL6Miy18eUnKNKBW

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There are many reasons people don't like the show, misogyny, the different tone compared to everything else in the MCU, putting established characters in a different tone than they're used to, and then other more substantial complaints about writing, CGI, etc.

It's often a mixed bag and I've seen a lot of people blame the writing when it was really one of the other factors. Personally, I loved it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I never watched it because from what I saw in ads and clips people posted it didn't look lile something I'd enjoy. I can't say if it's bad or not because I haven't watched it.

I think a lot of people who felt the same way are shitting on it regardless of if they watched it or not. Just watch it yourself and form your own opinions. Everyone has their own tastes. If you don't like it skip it and watch something else

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 2 points 1 year ago

It was bad. Just like The Secret Invasion was bad, bit with a male lead. There you go.

[–] adamcook@mastodon.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Grapetruth

I thought most of it was fun. But I really didn't like the finale. I know breaking the 4th wall is in her comic, but they just broke it too hard. Any emotional stakes that may have existed were blown away. And now, the MCU has to either ignore She-Hulk or fix it.

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why did you tag me? I'm just wondering because some people do it and some don't

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does the OP think that She-Hulk ‘got bad ratings’ when it was one of the two most viewed Marvel shows on Disney last year?

That’s right, more people spent more minutes watching She-Hulk than anything other than Loki, including content from other Disney franchises.

Social media outrage & negative review brigading on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes from a demographic that is mainly male, a certain age & American doesn’t actually represent the majority of those of us paying for Disney+.

Women subsidize content designed for that market all the time,,why the outrage when the rest of the market gets something to their tastes?

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was primarily basing it on reviews and ratings including IMDb tbh. Fair point, but just out of curiosity, if IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes are unreliable due to review bombing/etc for often reasons unrelated to the project itself (including wanting to "restore the Snyderverse" and boycott Warner Bros, or not liking the fact that a remake of something classic was made in the first place, or political objection to the themes expressed)... what is a good source for determining what the actual public consensus on a show or movie is, ideally with a numeral rating guide like IMDb/Rotten Tomatoes?

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any social media crowdsourced rating is going to be vulnerable to review bombing/brigading.

You can get some sense of the perspectives with IMDb if you look at not just the score but the distribution of scores (available in the app). A huge spike of 1/10s tells the story.

It’s not that bona fide statisticians can’t get useful data out of crowdsourced surveys, but a public platform like those ones attracts brigading and the score is not adjusted for demographic balance.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

There was really only one episode so bad I turned it off and I think that was 4? Or maybe 5? Both were bad but only one was bad enough to turn off.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I didn't mind it until right at the end. The last episode of two totally ruined it for me. Breaking the 4th wall was unnecessary and awkward, and they screwed up a perfectly fine ending with their jarring 'subverting expectations' approach.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's post endgame marvel content, which means it was made with a pre established equation from Disney.

So you'll see the exact same story flow, humor, and acting as every other marvel franchise, with very little originality beyond the premise.

Which means it's mediocre depending on your tastes.

What makes she hulk specifically unenjoyable though is the very obviously shoehorned diversity requirement by Disney. I want to be clear I'm not anti progressive in any way, but it really comes off as "We threw in this fad from Twitter to make you happy" type of material. Not something well thought out or interesting that many children's shows often do much better.

The plot and characteristics of the main character are still kinda dumb. Hulk gets sidelined as some useless dude. The ending was really stupid. And there's too much random stuff related to other marvel things which makes it harder for the show to stand out on its own or get new viewers interested.

It's really a hit or miss on whether or not you enjoy it, because there are some people who like this generation of marvel stuff, even though I personally find it really boring and not very well written.

On a somewhat related note, Ms Marvel had similar issues. The plot was dumb, the character was dumb, and the writing/acting played the very same with the same type of jokes and humor. It was kind of an insult to the comic because it completely missed the point of the original source material and instead was formed into another cookie cutter marvel franchise.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago
[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's nearly trash. Most of the women marvel/dc based shit is trash. You have Wanda vision and birds being good. The rest are mediocre at best and that's not due to misogyny.

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[–] LurkNoMore@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When daredevil did the walk of shame in his suit only barefoot was the moment I officially labeled the series crap.

[–] LurkNoMore@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: removed my comment. After seeing other downvoted comments I know what's going on here and it's not worth it.

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