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(does not reflect my opinion, just thought it looked funny)
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Taken from a YouTube channel called Not Just Bikes.
Cars are already subject to noise restrictions. So effectively loud cars are banned. There is just little enforcement for most of it.
Let's refocus the police funds of shooting or falsely arresting POC, and instead ticketing and enforcing the loud car situation.
Who needs cops? I believe CA passed a bill to trial automatic enforcement of this issue last year. Detects excessive noise and photographs the license plates just like speed cameras.
I’m waiting to see where they will trial it. I haven’t heard anything recently.
I'll say that so much of this is unnecessary or even BS. Ban loud cars because they're annoying, that's all that is necessary. Set a decibel limit and if you exceed it then you can be fined. Set time limits like when most people are sleeping so you can have loud cars at some more reasonable times and ban them when people aren't expecting stupidly loud noises.
Most cities already have noise ordinances. But as usual owning a car gives you situational immunity to the law.
This was the line of thought I had as well, it should be so easy to stop this problem as it stands
You can't just bust out a sound meter and take a reading. There are so many factors that it makes it unenforceable, because at the end of the day the burden of proof would still be placed on the enforcement arm that it was that vehicle. How do you control for ambient noise? Distance? Temperature? It is just unenforceable to make a dB level a mark.
If your car goes pop pop pop, though, I think you need to have your car taken away, and maybe your freedom, because you're just an asshole.
They are not enforced.
Ok well regardless of surrounding habitats; it’s a driving hazard. Loud cars are a hazard on the road if the owner cannot hear those around them. It’s not on the list but it should be front and center when it comes to road safety around others cuz the road is shared.
That doesn't really make a lot of sense either though. Most cars have built in sound proofing and while you can hear other cars, it's rarely a useful sense when driving. If not being able to hear is a significant hazard then why are deaf people allowed to drive?
Fine the manufacturer for each incident with each vehicle and make them recall and fix every one to stop it. Unless it's the result of someone modifying their own vehicle, then you seize the vehicle and suspend their license.
People modify their vehicles to be loud.
You guys lump motorcycles in on this, right? There's some biker rally/meetup relatively close by this week/weekend, so I'm busy giving the finger to every asshole that passes with their stupid straight-pipe harleys and dumb shitty radios screaming skynard or AC/DC.
I drive an EV, fwiw. There's literally zero public transportation here, so I'm not on the fuckcars train, sorry.
Fuckcars is not necessarily about not having a car. It's about wanting the conditions in which you're able to get rid of your car.
You can have a car and still want to fuck cars... wait no... and still be fuckcars. I do, and I'm mad I need one at all without losing hours a day.
My town has a “bike week” every few months it feels like, where all the people with their way too damn loud bikes get the privilege of blocking off half the city for a week to.. I don’t even know?? Drink, I guess? Whatever the case, a major road becomes impassable and the entire city gets too loud to have a conversation on the sidewalk. It’s awful, god knows why the city thinks it’s a good idea. Ugh, now l’m annoyed again just thinking about it…
I'd argue fossil motorcycles should be banned before fossil cars. If it's about riding with nothing between you and the ground, an electric MC will do plenty. Otherwise, cars serve the same need.
They’ve both gotta go. The order is not important to me as long as it’s soon.
But what about that one dude who wants to go rrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRR at three in the morning and wake up everyone in a five mile radius?
As someone who lives near a busy road: lets start with making subwoofers illegal first. Its 100x worse than a roaring engine
How about both? A car with a subwoofer is still a loud car.
Idk about the US but here you can be fined if you cause noise. Like maxing out the subwoofer on a parking lot next to residential areas, being a nuisance. As much as I agree with you, I still found loud exhaust/engine noise worse, just because there's much more of it.
Yeah, there are noise ordinances in theory, but those are never enforced and if you live in a questionable neighborhood, the penalty for calling the cops to enforce them is way steeper than just dealing with the insufferable noise. I hate feeling bass shake my whole house at 2am, but if I have to choose I guess I pick that over being shot.
Or just because it's annoying as hell and we have the technology to make silent cars, so there is no valid reason to have noisy cars on public roads.
How about how some luxury cars are so silent, that speakers or exhaust diaphragms are added to make noise.
Very similar arguments apply for church bells, too.
As somebody who lives in a questionable neighbor, I would personally sacrifice a lot if we could ban vehicles from playing music above personal listening levels while in residential zones. Feeling house-reverberating bass at all hours of the day is way worse than normal car noises.
On vehicles modified for sporting purposes the silencers no longer work because the propagation of sound is different and therefore db-killers are applied or it is avoided to drive them around the city center or during off hours. Then there are people who purposely remove the silencer just to make noise and this also reduce factory performance, these deserve to have their license withdrawn because they take advantage of the fact that noisy vehicles occasionally exist.
In the right column should also have : cannot be aware of others on the road if you can’t hear their regular engines around you.
You don’t need loud vehicles for that, you can still hear quiet vehicles today
I moved to an apartment adjacent to an intersection on a medium-high traffic stroad and it was the biggest mistake of my life. I have never been so stressed. I can barely even enjoy music now because half the time if I hear low bass in a song I think its coming from outside and I get annoyed for a few seconds.
And car sound systems.