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[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Move to Firefox (or any non-Chromium browser really) and use a different search engine that's not run by a giant corporation. I use DuckDuckGo.

[–] blitzkrieg@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Doesn't DuckDuckGo just use Bing and suppress search results?

[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (13 children)

It supposedly uses Bing and several other search results while suppressing content mills. I'm open to using anything though, DDG just happens to be the more privacy oriented one I went with.

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[–] parpol@programming.dev 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, so use SearX which uses all the search engines, including google, duckduckgo and Bing, but shares 0 of your data with them.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but you either have to use some rando's instance or host your own. That's not exactly safe or easy to use.

It's a nice project though.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can always change instance every few searches in case there is logging

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who tf is going to do that when you can just use an alternative?

[–] parpol@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I do it. There is no alternative.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
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[–] kelvie@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or just pay Kagi. If you're not paying they're gonna have to get their money somewhere, and search is expensive.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

if it's not open source I don't trust it

[–] vermyndax@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I started getting targeted ads on DDG this morning. They were targeting my search terms, and Microsoft had bought the targets. Getting Edge ads in DDG is a hard stop for me.

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Teddy Roosevelt's ghost, come back and bust this trust.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Leave Big G in the dust, ads on their video platform are just grift and lust.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure why this is supposedly either surprising or malevolent. Google spends a significant amount of money on developing Chrome and then gives it away for free; clearly they must be making money off of it in some other way. Their usual approach to making money off of things they provide for free is to show the users ads, and defaulting to Google search is how Chrome does that. I don't think this is any different from saying that YouTube or Gmail exist to serve Google's ad business (which they clearly do).

What's funny to me is that I've heard of companies that really do provide a free version of their product without ads or any other way to make money off of it directly. Their goal is to protect their enterprise version of the software (which is not free) by reducing people's motivation to make an open-source competitor. I could see Google maintaining Chrome without their search engine as the default in order to prevent someone else from creating a popular browser which does have a default search engine that isn't Google's, but that actually seems more anti-competitive...

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you surprised? Chrome, Chromebook and Android are mere vessels to get data.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And this is a surprise for whom?

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Next they’ll tell me that Alexa and Kindles are just there to sell me stuff.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago

Pretty much everything Google makes exists solely to power it's ad service - including it's search engine. That's literally their whole business. Did anyone think that Google was building browsers just as a fun weekend project?

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

In other words, water is wet, grass is green, and the sky is blue.

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Wow really? Had no clue at all.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Blud no shit

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the Assistant team has admitted that the product does not have a market fit on mobile

How is there not a market demand for a voice assistant on mobile devices?

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I read this too and scratched my head. I would argue that voice assistants are more useful on a mobile device than a stationary one 💀

[–] SMillerNL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’d guess because there is an OS assistant that’s hard to change.

[–] aquaman@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Indeed.

As Orion exists to complement Kagi search.

Orion can be used fine with anything else though too circa the time of this post. Highly recommend both.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've been loving Kagi, but I have no particular need for their browser.

ETA: Oh, I see it's only for iOS and macOS anyway. Maybe that ecosystem needed it, but I wouldn't know.

[–] aquaman@infosec.pub -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, though Linux is coming next "soon".

I like that Orion (via Kagi as the business) is directly aligned with MY interests as a human.

Safari, I'm generally a fan of too as Apple is--for now--generally aligned with customer; but mostly annoyed that they force an extension to use a search not in their list. Also find the adblocking just "ok" in Safari.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple is generally aligned with the customer

Fucking lol

[–] aquaman@infosec.pub -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fun community. First and last time I'll be chiming in here.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Ignore that dickhead hahaha

Lemmy has the kind of hate boner for Apple that I had when I was a teenager, so I just assume these twats are still teens and will learn someday.

[–] No1@aussie.zone -1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, he probably has an Android 🤮

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

If they release a non-chromium windows counterpart (not sure if WebKit works on windows?) I'd seriously consider it. Eagerly awaiting it!

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

....obviously.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I haven't verified this is still the case, but in the past every URL you typed into Chrome GoogleBot would then index shortly later.

ETA: Did a test and it doesn't seem to happen any more.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I work in SEO and have had many URLs that are orphaned and I go to them directly. It wasn’t until I asked Google to index via Search Console, or had it added to a site map and pinged Googlebot, that it would get indexed. You can live check if a page is indexed by using the site operator and entering the URL.

If what you said was true, then even orphaned pages would be indexed from a visit and that just is not my experience as a professional.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah I made a unique HTML page on Friday and retrieved it in a stock version of Chrome. As of today there have been no GoogleBot hits on it.

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