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[–] AngryLiverpoolFan@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

If anything, it should be Man utd who decides the punishment. It’s has got fucking nothing to do with FA. Fix your fucking VAR & referee first

[–] BlueCode6@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I dont understand why calling somebody a gorilla can only be a racist insult. It can also be flattering if done with that intention, they are wonderful strong beasts

[–] KilwaLover@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Onana literally said it was fine stop being offended for him

[–] NotAsimppp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He didn't meant like that but deserved

[–] ChiliConCairney@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Any Argentines/Spanish speakers that can clarify what this was meant to convey? It obviously looks absolutely awful in our cultural context, but it also makes zero sense to think he was trying to be insulting. Curious what he was trying to say

[–] sebte@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Not sure if related but “mono” = “monkey” is also a kinda popular nickname for goalkeepers. I would say gorilla is a better version of the nickname

Some examples

Navarro Montoya = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Navarro_Montoya

Burgos = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ%C3%A1n_Burgos

Monetti = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Monetti

Sanchez = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_S%C3%A1nchez_(footballer,_born_1987)

Martinez = https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramiro_Mart%C3%ADnez_(footballer)

(some of them you might have to open spanish version of wiki to see the nickname)

[–] TheHolyGoalie@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

Doubt it has anything to do with where he’s from and maybe just him being a bit innocent and not immediately associating the gorilla with racism.

Josip Juranovic posted the same emoji in the Instagram comments of Cameron Carter Vickers whilst he was at Celtic, CCV is known for his strength so everyone knew he was making a comment about that but he deleted his too because of the same reasons here.

[–] KensaiVG@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Probably just meant to convey strength and size and general "power"

[–] Eleven918@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] spurs_fan_uk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Paywall. What did he post?

[–] a34fsdb@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Garlic-Cheese-Chips@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact he deleted it means he knows it was "wrong" meaning the FA are free to throw the book at him.

3 games, 100k. Same as Cavani. The fine may be lower since he earns far less than Cavani did.

[–] boomerjundbestjund@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

The fact he deleted it means he knows it was "wrong" meaning the FA are free to throw the book at him.

Absolutely fucking not.

[–] EdWoodwardsPA@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter how his teammate took it or how it was intended because nuance is not allowed. Social media faux-rage is the only barometer for things like this.

The FA should unleash the firing squad on him.

[–] moonski@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The FA should unleash the firing squad on him.

Maybe send him over to their friends in Saudi Arabia to be stoned?

[–] Black_n_Neon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

United losing all of their forwards lol

[–] doubleoeck1234@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Surely Onana can just say "oh nah it's fine he meant nothing by it" and the FA will drop it

[–] asromafanisme@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really, what if there's a serious case of racism but the player is forced to say that he's OK with it due to the pressure from the club

Just a general thought

[–] AlexBucks93@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I doubt teammates are racist to each other when they celebrated the win together

[–] moonski@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Instead the FA have skipped the whole " what does the percieved victim aka onana thing" of this all and are straight into interviewing Garnacho

[–] lala_b11@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

When the whole saga about the Bernardo Silva-Benjamin Mendy tweet happened, Mendy actually wrote a letter to the FA defending Bernardo & saying that he didn’t view the tweet as racist, but the FA still fined & banned (& forced him to attend educational classes about racism) Bernardo for the tweet

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[–] No-Habit988@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

"Calling him a gorilla is actually a term of endearment in Argentina" - lad who's never left Salford

[–] ginger11111@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Complete joke if they try and ban him, now I'm a United fan so there may be some bias here....

but he tweeted a picture of him, Maguire (who scored the winning goal) Onana (who saved a last minute penalty) and Mctominay with Maguire and Onana clearly being the main 2 in the photo.

Garnacho didn't use 1 emoji of a gorilla directed at Onana.. he used 2... the way I see it, he clearly meant it as being 2 beasts who won us the game.

[–] 0b111111100001@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why do players get harsh penalties and not officials who mess up all the damn time?

[–] Iswaterreallywet@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Don’t think he meant it that way. He realized he messed up and deleted it. Why make anything more out of this?

[–] JiveTurkey688@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I don't associate gorillas with strength/power/dominance. I associate them with black people, so it's racist regardless of the obvious context. You really can't make this shit up anymore.

[–] WalaLlama5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Laughable organisation

[–] el1teman@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Is it racist for them to think the tweet is racist? 🤔

[–] OptimisticRealist__@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dude looks like a pikeman ready to fight at the battle of hastings, he really has that simple Jack vibe going for him so its not surprising that his decision making isnt the best

[–] joderjuarez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Far-fetched

[–] nitewalkerz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Good job. Nothing for scuffing the penalty spot before FCK's kick is even better /s

[–] Potatopolis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Fucking moronic but I doubt malicious.

[–] Omnislash99999@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah this is dumb, he's super young, took it down as soon as he was aware, Onana himself has backed him up. Leave it at that

[–] thelove20@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

All you muppets on here calling for his head, onana released a post what he thought about it.

Now please children go be mad about something else.

[–] mtheperry@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The only thing offensive here is those fucking earrings.

[–] AlcindorJr33@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

There is real racism in football and this what the FA choose to use as positive PR

[–] ElNombreOccupado@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

As if there’s people in here thinking this is fine

[–] Jiminyfingers@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

100% no negative vibe from this at all, intended as a compliment I am certain

[–] araheem94@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

These FA execs should anyways be cut and the wages moved to dealing with some real shit rather than these non-issues.

[–] sealcon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Having been on various sports teams in the past and seen a few (black and white) exceptionally athletic guys referred to as "silverbacks" or "gorillas", it's incredibly obvious that this is an endearing moniker, similar to calling a very strong guy a "beast" or something like that.

Reading racism into it just says more about the reader than anything else.

[–] Rudeek@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The ball is gone

[–] TheDJ955@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why is the FA pretending to be offended for Onana? Onana knows that's not how Garnacho meant it, he said it himself.

[–] IrishRedDevil887198@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

FA are a joke. Always have been.

[–] AnxiousZombeh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The world needs to stop being offe dedicated for everyone else. Onanas post was spot on, who can tell him who he should be offended by. The mostly all white male FA will judge if it should be offensive to Onana.

[–] Eyeshield_sena@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its okay to post a white man with a 🐐 emoji, but its not okay to post a black man with a 🦍 emoji?

[–] sadcentur@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

i’m not saying that garnacho should be banned, but calling white people goats doesn’t have any racist history behind it ?

[–] catu91@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ok put it on the queue behind city’s 115 charges that are being investigated for 84959402 years

[–] jseng27@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

FA needs to fuck off

[–] BrokeAsshole@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

So fucking annoying

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