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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 216 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (90 children)

They didn't call the UN chief an anti-Semite. I guess that's progress right?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_Guterres

What a terrible human being, looking at his life filled with works trying to improve people. He should be ashamed, trying to look at the cause instead of the effect of global situations.

But in all seriousness, the chilling effect is real, because he's the UN secretary general they're holding back a little bit, but they're demonstrating for everybody you better not say anything we don't agree with. And that has a real impact on political speech globally.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

What is more worrying is that there is a witch hunt and if you support the regular Palestinian human rights you are kind of automatically condemned as anti-Semitic and supporter of terrorists.

And I fully agree with Antonio and I am really happy that he is one of the very few people who openly stands against Israel's policies of constant suppression of Palestine.

I don't know what the plan of Israel is for the Palestinians, and what they are exactly hoping to achieve apart from making those people hate them even more and actually involuntarily boosting Hamas popularity in the region and radicalizing even more people there.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 193 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How DARE the UN Secretary General express the blindingly obvious truth?! The nerve! 🤦

[–] JackSkellington@lemmy.world 129 points 11 months ago (8 children)

This clearly shows the power of Israel regarding having a public opinion that goes against their book… no one dare speak ill of Israel government narrative

[–] willis936@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The UN Chief resigning as a result would be a show of power. Calling for it and not getting is a show of weakness.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Israel doesn't give a shit. They have most of the west oligarchy fellating them, "donating" billions of dollars in "aid" and weapons, and approving of their entire history of human rights abuses and genocide of Palestine.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I read that they put the names, pictures, and personal info of the Harvard students that spoke out on ad trucks and drove them around the Harvard campus.

The lengths to which they're going to suppress dissent are getting pretty scary. I would not be at all surprised if threats have been made through back channels.

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[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 119 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Looks like stating simple facts it not acceptable any more ...

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 28 points 11 months ago

inconvenient truths.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 110 points 11 months ago (11 children)
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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 80 points 11 months ago (13 children)

When the Jewish peace groups sat in for a ceasefire in Washington, spokespeople for the ADL in effect denied their status as Jews and said antizionism is the same as antisemitism.

You can't enforce ethnic land claims without perpetual suppression of undesirables, and the completely predictable effects that will cause.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TBF, zionists resent even orthodox american Jews for having rejected the initial call on ideological grounds.

You can see it in modern discourse where American Jews that support Palestine are dismissed out of hand by Israelis and zionists as "just being stupid Americans"

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[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago

Yeah well Israel was offended by the UN sending out an untargeted reminder that the Geneva conventions exist.

Let them seethe and cope.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So I guess we make policy choices via temper tantrum nowadays.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the ~~American~~ Iresali way

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[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 11 months ago

Proud of Guterres' courage. We share a country and an alma mater and that also makes me proud.

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

SLAMMED fuck journalism today.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It triggers me every single time I read it. When did journalists forget how to write like adults? Who as we all know, would use criticize instead of slam.

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[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

“Earth exists within a vacuum, therefore UN chief is wrong.”

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, in a vacuum or not, it still sucked.

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Hamas terrorist attacks sucked. Bombing whole city blocks in retaliation sucks. Indeed.

Personally I'm astonished how many seems to find it easy picking a side. The more I learn the less I feel sure about anything except that the whole situation sucks.

Picking a side sucks. Not picking a side sucks. I'm glad I don't have political influence for this one.

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Fuck Israel. I am out of words, how worse can this get?

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[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

Hamas attack did not happen in a vacuum, just like Israel acting like this to what the UN chief said did not happen in a vacuum. Israel has been hating on the UN calling out their apartheid for decades now, and it is Israel itself who is principally responsible for removing any meaning from the term antisemitism itself. It is going to find itself very, very alone in the coming decades.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

‘did not happen in a vacuum,’ calls for his resignation

Here's the "vacuum" he was talking about.

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