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[–] Comrade-Conrad-4@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I can't fathom that this is an offsides, it's cunt-hairs. But both sides will argue forever.

[–] RomeoSki@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Okay hear me out…the head and other body parts shouldn’t count unless they are the part that controls the ball. His head is offside but his feet aren’t which is what he uses and controls the ball with.

[–] EducationalTension72@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If my mom had consulted a better astrologer, I’d have chosen this as a career. No accountability, no consequences just apologies!

[–] IamPd_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What are you waffeling about, half his head is off.

[–] DomRM14@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Do they count the head? Thats interesting

[–] Cfcjones@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The problem isn’t the technology, it’s the people making decisions with it having opinions on certain clubs, players, and likely in this case, race. Stamp that shit out of it already, officials need to be held accountable. Yes I’m talking to you Øvrebø you bald fuck.

[–] exploring_lifenow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't see a lot of complaint when Bellingham scored a goal which he clearly handled, neither when he stopped the ball with his hand in own penalty box and penalty was not given.

Now you are crying for 1 mm error 🤣

[–] thalne@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

so you're telling me this is ok

[–] akshay_rathod_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Yaniv242@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think offside should be checked on the foot positions only.

[–] Nati-Nevada@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Remember when we gave great offensive play the advantage in a game that favors natural quality densive play?

[–] blither86@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Just make it feet for fuck sake

[–] Stay_Beautiful_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think it should be the feet tbh but that may be an unpopular opinion

[–] odigaras@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ridiculous rules

[–] kick_these_blues@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They made a 3D computar rendered image! So thats 100% reliable because technology and pixels!

[–] Snitsie@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Real fans complain about everything lmao he's offside look at the picture

[–] tttttfffff@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As the laws of the game stand it is offside, however I do feel like it should be measured from the feet. I know you can score with your head, but there is always going to be a certain amount of lean while sprinting. Arms/shoulders shouldn’t come into play because a defender on the half turn is going to have their arm out for balance as they’re turning (shown in the photo). I’d prefer feet as the point of measure, but from the current rules it is offside. Fine margins at such high speed though.

[–] Larkinz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it should be measured from the feet

This. They should look at feet only, that seems like the most fair. And to add to that I'd say one foot of the attacker would have to be behind a defender's foot in its entirety for it to be offside, not just a toe.

[–] nathanosaurus84@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Plus, generally it's easier to just tell with the feet as they're on the ground. No need for fancy graphs and close call lines.

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[–] MrFabianS@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The call is obviously a correct one. My personal belief is that the laws of the game in conjunction with the technology we have should change to allow these plays to stand and count as goal. It’s frustrating to see such offsides like this stand when the reality is the attacker isn’t gaining an actual advantage with the 3 inches of space

[–] Luisgtz41@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My argument is that offsides should be determined by one’s center of gravity and not extremities.

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[–] tarekelsakka@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It feels like VAR and refereeing in Europe are better than in some top leagues, the amount of shitty mistakes even using that same fucking technology in La Liga & EPL is unbelievable.

[–] simianjim@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't use the same technology. This screenshot is from the semi-automated VAR system used by the Champions League. Not sure about La Liga, but the Premier League don't use the semi-automated system, it's completely manual.

[–] tarekelsakka@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Then they need to adopt that system. We've already seen too many crucial mistakes by idiots controlling VAR (ex Liverpool disallowed goal) that cost teams points.

[–] Dartiboi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Offsides should be judged by foot position only, change my mind.

[–] Whatisreddit69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Given the current technology, Offsides should be determined by the part of the body that touches the ball first. If a player uses the foot, that’s the mark. If the player uses the shoulder measure from that. Then you get away from a head being offsides but the feet are on and the first touch was the foot (no offside advantage with the body part that actually mattered).

[–] sunken_grade@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

this might be controversial, but i think goals like this should stand…

[–] KingTolis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Don’t get it his hand are onside.

[–] WishyRater@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think this is a bit much 😬 Im not saying the call is ‘wrong’ but this surgical precision we are trying to extract out of the sport is taking away a lot of the magic, in my opinion. Realistically, how big of an advantage does Vini gain from his head being 5cm offside?

[–] elBoludo10@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Too much head

[–] stpstrt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Typical offside that on the screen it’s questionable, but then you see this and it’s a no brainer.

[–] Pieter8720@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Looking at it from the actual replay, I was certain it could not have been offside. But this shows it as offside so nothing to complain about actually…

[–] CouldveHadItAll@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is it his head that’s offside? Not sure on the rules now.

[–] Cavaniiii@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Love this technology. Look how accurate it is. The only issue is I have in situations like this is that I just don't understand how an advantage is gained to an unfair degree. Of course you can't have everything and whilst the rules state that this is offside then I'm happy for it to be called, but for the sake of the game I would like to see decisions like this have a different ruling. It's a pretty hard road to navigate.

[–] ImAnApe_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bullshit. All of it. That’s a fraction of a second difference right there and probably less than an inch… what about the right moment when the kicker passed the ball? Could have been a fraction of a second before or after and it would change everything too.. I mean, I get the positive aspect of the VAR and all but man.. calling an offside that close is just BS.

[–] SunstormGT@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Why? He is over the line. Saying calling offside that close is BS, is BS…

[–] Jhushx@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You can score a goal with your shoulder or head, so it was accurately called judging by the depiction

[–] Helwinter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Modern offside is shit. Truly shit. There’s no substantial or measurable advantage here.

[–] Busquessi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

VARcelona strikes again, thanks Laporta!

[–] johnnybazookatooth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

the offside line does not make sense with the line on the field, bad prospective here.

[–] crisselll@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m confused, are people thinking this should have been onsides?

[–] DangerDulf@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I saw this image and wondered what I should be seeing that would make it a bad call. This is clearly offside, the rules of what body parts count have been the same for quite a while afaik. Before VAR this wouldn’t necessarily have been caught, but an alert linesman standing on the opposite sideline could also have seen his head poke out behind the defender and we’d congratulate him for catching it I think.

[–] Snoffyy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Do they not draw the lines on the feet?

[–] InnocentPossum@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Offside based on the rules but surely we can start doing a center of mass vs center of mass type thing, no?

Like does Vinicious get an advantage having his head beyond the guys knee? Not really, his momentum was already beating the Braga players. Someone with an outstretched leg to poke in a cross should be commended for the effort of getting to the ball while the bulk of their body is behind the defender, not punished.

I dunno how the current tech works but don't most players where wear monitor type kit anyway, surely that can house a device that counts as their centere of mass.

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