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[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The use of "unstoppable" is such a massively strange thing in this context. It somewhat implies that this is a bad thing, that should be stopped.

[–] silent2k@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It is for the fossil industry.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

*Swivels around in chair* I'm afraid you are too late. The shift to clean energy is unstoppable!

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The world is on an "unstoppable" shift towards renewable energy but the phase down of fossil fuels is not happening quickly enough, a new report says.

It praised the significant progress countries had made in expanding renewable energy and supporting consumers with the shift to electric vehicles and heat pumps instead of gas boilers.

It's not a question of 'if', it's just a matter of 'how soon' - and the sooner the better for all of us," said International Energy Agency (IEA) Executive Director Fatih Birol.

The report recognised that oil and gas would continue to play a role in the world's economy and that maintaining investment was "essential".

That compares with the pledge made in 2015 when political leaders agreed on limiting temperature rises to "well below" 2C and to make every effort to keep it under 1.5C, to avoid the most dangerous impacts of climate change.

But the IEA warned that it meant further uncertainty compounding an already unsettled global economy - Middle Eastern countries, such as Iran and Saudi Arabia - account for 67% of world oil reserves.


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[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kind of a weak statement. I feel like it's been a given that we're going to end up there sooner or later; even if politicians didn't want to ever go, the resources are going to run out sooner or later.

The question isn't whether or not we're going to go green, the question is how many people are going to die along the way before we get there.

this is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I read this as IKEA and I was like 'well that's a new direction I guess'

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Great, so we should start reuptake now because it's already too late. I know it's a controversial subject and I know why but we better get used to the idea of it now because it has to happen.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unstoppable other than by climate change killing the planet and all habitable spaces. But yeah, unstoppable.

[–] zacher_glachl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to estimates, PV including battery storage will be the cheapest energy source to develop for nearly every country in the world by the 2030s. Surely even the most determined doomsayers won't go so far as to say we'll "kill the planet" until then.

[–] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except global warming, even if we went net zero today, is still gonna have temps rise for a long time. We'll have to go net negative by a ton before we can reverse the effect.

Not to mention, cheap to make doesn't imply full on adoption. Oil, gas and coal will still be in use around then. I'd love to be wrong here, but it costs more to change than to stick with what's working.

[–] zacher_glachl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The more pessimistic (already prior to this report unlikely!) projections of climate change are conditional on sustained heavy investment and development of fossil energy sources, which seems to me would make little sense if the alternative is significantly cheaper. So there's now an even lower chance we're in one of those truly apocalyptic timelines.