for balance: we should consider this from a fascist perspective
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Didn't know fascists were all Australians.
That's not, nor has it ever been, particularly funny.
The joke is basically "northern hemisphere is the default amirite? so everyone else must be upside down har har"
And before you think I'm just a salty Aussie there's heaps of actually funny jokes you can make about Australia.
For example Danny bhoy has a fucking hilarious routine about the stupid fucking names we give shit like bottle-o
The joke is made based on perspective, if you are in an australian sub someone can make a joke on europe seeing it like that, the fact that mostly ppl from the north emisphere do it shows nothing, it's literally a matter of perspective
I have actually seen an Australian make the exact joke you mentioned, I don't remember the specifics but it was basically that.
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I literally can't read this could you flip the text back upright? I think it might be written in Australian.
🐎hors
As far as I know the joke is based off the flat earth conspiracy which says that Australia can't exist and therefore must be on the other side of the flat earth
You dont get it, they make jokes that will get a rise out of you. If its a good joke we can all laugh, but if they make the same bad joke every time, it gets to you more than an actual slagging will.
Take it from an Irish person, we know how to handle lame jokes the americans come up with.
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Banned from lemmy world.
Oh that's a shame.
I should fix the imbalance.
Attention hexbear and lemmy.Mali: you should question why all the people you worship are men. Maybe you prefer strongmen to truth.
That oughtta do it
Still banned from lemmy world, now also banned from hexbear, lemmygrad, and some random instance you've never heard of.
Loved this. In Brasil we once had a reverse terrorist attack, some military from our fascist government had the brilliant idea of exploding a car and blame it on radical left groups to create more moral panic and make the dictatorship justified. A dumb ass seargent ended up exploding the car while himself was inside, demoralizing our military force even more and ended up speeding our process of returning to a democracy. He probably died a very horrible and painful death because the explosives weren't even strong enough to blow the car into pieces.
And years later a second military officer planned an attack on a base, failed was fired but had no more repercussions outside of that. Started a career on politics and eventually became the worst president Brazil ever had.
Is that true? Bolsonaro did that? That's treason, on any account. And he was allowed to simply go in peace?
The problem is that here in Brazil crimes committed by military are judged by a special military court, and that usually means being judged by peers, friends or acquaintances. Also his terrorist plan was a protest for better salaries for officers, so he wasn’t really seen as an enemy to our military force, just a passionate crazy dude. They basically let him go with a slap on the wrist, and he entered politics sometime after that.
In October 1987, Bolsonaro faced a new accusation. Veja reported that, with an Army colleague, he had plans to plant bombs in military units in Rio de Janeiro. After Bolsonaro called the allegation "a fantasy", the magazine published, in its next issue, sketches in which the plan was detailed. The drawings had allegedly been made by Bolsonaro. Official records unearthed by the newspaper O Estado de S. Paulo in 2018 detailed the case.[31] After an investigation by an administrative military bureau named Justification Board, Bolsonaro was unanimously considered guilty. According to this board, Bolsonaro had a "serious personality deviation and a professional deformation", "lack of moral courage to leave the Army" and "lied throughout the process" when denying frequent contacts with Veja. The Supreme Military Court then analyzed the case. The general in charge of reporting the case voted to acquit Bolsonaro, arguing that he had already been penalized for the initial Veja article, that there was no testimonial evidence of his plans to plant bombs, and that there were "deep contradictions in the four graphological exams", two of which failed to conclude that Bolsonaro was the author of the sketches. Bolsonaro was acquitted by the majority of the court (9 v 4 votes). In December 1988, just after this ruling, he left the Army to begin his political career. He served in the military for 15 years, reaching the rank of captain.
PQP
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It's strongly suggested by some evidence that the CIA helped on this, they supplied the explosive, I recall that ETA never used this kind of plastic explosive but only here, it was the type os explosive that the CIA use at the time, and the tunnel they had to dig was too close to the USA Embassy, they had to know someone was digging a tunnel that close.
Also as Spain has 1/4 of the population that are fascists, you can't do jokes about this: Basque Space Launch, or the 1st spanish astronaut", because the Audiencia Nacional will sue you, the fascists rates in the judges are way higher than the 1/4 average. Yes, evetually you will not be indicted, but they will sue you until you bleed https://www.eldiario.es/politica/carrero-blanco-condenado-carcel-cassandra_1_2248138.html
They claimed that they stole the explosive from the spanish army.
We can't fully trust them, but the explosive itself is not sufficient proof for US involvement, especially because it was a widely used explosive.
Idk, this was before Reagan, so the CIA would still sometimes help assassinate fascists instead of putting them in power.
hahaha you're funny
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Hence my use of "suggested", unless someone in the future declassify some documents and there is proof it's all speculations, USA didn't want more fascists in Europe and Carrero Blanco was the number one successor of Franco, he also was not very happy with the US military bases in Spain, and he want to re-negotiate it. It's being said that the explosive is C4, military grade, that's why the car blew all the way up and pass the building, but at this moment there is no proof either way.
1/4 of Spain is fascist? Seems awfully high.
The fascist party (VOX) got almost 10% of votes last elections. The right-wing party (PP) got almost 40%.
Not all the fascists vote VOX though, many vote PP. So the amount of fascists is somewhere between 10% and almost 50%. Depending on how fascist you deem PP. 25% is not too far fetched.
I'm right next door (hello from Portugal!) and Spanish political alignment never made sense to me.
Our PP was center, right leaning, but very much tame. And I never really understood where Vox placed itself.
Our PP was center, right leaning
Beavis and Butt-Head laugh
Vox is Chega, PP is like Passos Coelho era PSD
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Huh. So I'm learning that people don't know about Carrero Blanco.
Ironically the bombers in question would probably have strongly objected at being memeified as "the people of Spain".
I thought I heard this referred to as the Basque Space Program before
You can see that the Basque are very inclusive of diversity in the fact that their first astronaut was a Spaniard from Madrid.
Too bad it wasnt a dickhead from Galicia.
I'm a spaniard, and the title makes sense cause it is true that instead of being mass hysteria, most people including high charging politicians didn't really condemn the attack that much because ut was better for the country, sure thr ppl who did it wouldnt be considerd ppl of Spain but the spanish population mostly seemed to turn a blind eye
I’m one of those people.
I knew of Franco, but not this guy.
First Spanish astronaut
An ETA commando unit using the code name Txikia (after the nom de guerre of ETA activist Eustakio Mendizabal, killed by the Guardia Civil in April 1973) rented a basement flat at Calle Claudio Coello 104, Madrid, on the route by which Blanco regularly went to mass at San Francisco de Borja church.[1]
Over five months, the unit dug a tunnel under the street – telling the landlord that they were student sculptors to hide their true purpose. The tunnel was packed with 80 kg (180 lb) of Goma-2 that had been stolen from a government depot.[citation needed]
On 20 December at 9:36 AM, a three-man ETA commando unit disguised as electricians detonated the explosives by command wire as Blanco's Dodge Dart passed.[2] The blast sent Blanco and his car 20 metres (66 ft) into the air and over the five-story church, landing on the second-floor terrace of the opposite side.[3] Blanco survived the blast but died at 10:15 AM in hospital.[2] His bodyguard and driver died shortly afterwards.[2] The "electricians" shouted to stunned passers-by that there had been a gas explosion, and then fled in the confusion. ETA claimed responsibility on 22 January 1974.
In a collective interview justifying the attack, the ETA bombers said:
The execution in itself had an order and some clear objectives. From the beginning of 1951 Carrero Blanco practically occupied the government headquarters in the regime. Carrero Blanco symbolized better than anyone else the figure of "pure Francoism" and without totally linking himself to any of the Francoist tendencies, he covertly attempted to push Opus Dei into power. A man without scruples conscientiously mounted his own State within the State: he created a network of informers within the Ministries, in the Army, in the Falange, and also in Opus Dei. His police managed to put themselves into all the Francoist apparatus. Thus he made himself the key element of the system and a fundamental piece of the oligarchy's political game. On the other hand, he came to be irreplaceable for his experience and capacity to manoeuvre and because nobody managed as he did to maintain the internal equilibrium of Francoism
— Julen Agirre, Operation Ogro: The Execution of Admiral Luis Carrero Blanco[4] The killing was not condemned and was, in some cases, even welcomed by the Spanish opposition in exile. According to Laura Desfor Edles, professor of sociology at California State University, Northridge, some analysts consider the assassination of Carrero Blanco to be the only thing the ETA have ever done to "further the cause of Spanish democracy".[5] However, former ETA member turned writer Jon Juaristi contended that ETA's goal with the killing was not democratization but a spiral of violence to fully destabilize Spain, heighten Franco's repression against Basque nationalism and force the average Basque citizen to support the lesser evil in the form of the ETA against Franco.[6]
Wow, the title of "Basque Space Program" was quite accurate.
Unbelievable that he survived, even for such a short period of time.
while I do agree on the idea (bomb the fascist), Francisco Franco ruled Spain as a dictator until his natural death (heart issues or something like that)
It's about Luis Carrero Blanco
oh shit i had no idea, thank you!
How did they get this photo? The photographer must have known the blast was coming.
I suspect it's from a movie about the attack. Probably Operación Ogro.
That makes sense.
Hmm? There were three days of national mourning when he died peacefully of natural causes? Not sure I get it
ETA: I was misguided, now I see the light
Pack watch. Rest in piss. Ripbozo.
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