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Formerly pretty good free resource for academic citations now turned into a giant pile of steamy hot garbage by the incredible asswipes at Chegg, a corporate name that mostly calls forth the image of a debilitating sexually transmitted infection.

Recommend using instead: https://www.scribbr.com/citation/generator. At least until they also start demanding your firstborn daughter for each citation.

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[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] danque@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Nah man more like: "let's find a way around it shall we"

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://zbib.org/

Always free, not shitty. Been great for and simple for 5 years now.

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Zotero is fucking amazing.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It is! I taught research at the grad and doctoral level and Zotero was the best by a long shot. SciWheel is a close second.

I hope the Devil comes for EndNote soon, it is awful and has been awful for a long time.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago
[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pro tip: use zotero. Its an open-source bibliography program, you can export the entire bibliography at once in whatever format you want.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Such a godsend! Especially the auto detection features. Just drop the PDF into it and it finds everything needed for a correction citation. I wish website citations would be better tho

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't mind paying but their prices are always quite high. I'm not convinced these services are that expensive to run

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Does anyone subscribe to shit like this? Honestly..

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's like 50 of these. If one enshittifies, jump to another.

Though if I was in academia, I wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks for a high quality one

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 months ago

I'm in academia and I can report that still nobody uses those.

For your own archiving, just use Zotero.

For writing papers, use bibtex.

All those citing websites are just scams for high school/undergrad students trying to find their footing. There is no reason they should exist.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if you were writing enough to be willing to pay that much it it would be more worth it to just learn to use LaTeX and have it all handled automatically

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Latex doesn't auto generate citations though, wdym

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well it will automatically generate the citation, it just won't automatically get the information for it, which has never been an issue for me but thinking about it I can see how it would be sometimes

[–] Sprucie@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

I think Zotero can generate a file which you can then import into LaTeX with all of the citation details. That's worked very nicely for me in the past.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Sure but the overwhelming amount of people citing are students, a group not known to possess a huge amount of spending money

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

And for this reason, I’m out.

[–] prayer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Zotero time

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 5 points 11 months ago

"I never called her back because she gave me a raging case of the cheggs! I still can pee straight, and that it three months ago!"

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] goa_mpu@feddit.de -1 points 11 months ago

Nobody seems to mind. I do. It drives me crazy. Apparently it's just me.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

What the heck, people use apps for bibliographies now? FFS, just write it yourself.

I must be getting old. Back when I was in high school and college and needed to cite stuff, I did it all freehand. No such tools existed.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You probably weren't graded for correct citation either. Nowadays you can get into real trouble for citing inconsistently or incorrectly. Especially with the automated plagiarism software that automatically runs over your texts once you turn them in.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

You probably weren't graded for correct citation either.

Oh yes I was. The college bookstore sold pocket style guides explicitly because of that.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Correct citing can be learned, though.

And it's an important tool in your academia toolbox.

[–] WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

It’s not a necessary tool for all fields. I don’t know your area but mathematics journals have vastly different style guides and citation standards. The best way to handle this is to export a bibtex citation which is just a list of metadata tags, then plug in the journal’s style header before compiling your TeX.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

When you have 100s of citations in multiple chapters, it's nice to have. Especially if you can generate them from a PDF of the paper you're trying to cite.