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Wiki for scientifically backed environment/climate friendly everyday life? (slrpnk.net)
submitted 1 year ago by philm@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net
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Hi, I'm currently at an eco-village, and had a discussion about washing dishes per hand vs using a dishwasher. I was not completely sure, but have read somewhere, that a dishwasher is more efficient (in terms of energy and water usage). I just fact-checked that and indeed, when not being super careful by handwashing (no running water, using very little detergent, rather cold water etc.), a dishwasher is more efficient.

I think it would be super useful to have a dense wiki for stuff like this for everyday life, because it's so easy to think that something different is more efficient. Because at first thought it doesn't sound immediately intuitive.

Does anybody know if there's something like this? And if not, it probably makes sense to start a wiki like that.

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[–] praxis@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I am not aware of any good solar punk wiki projects. There are however several other great wiki projects online that we can link and and contribute to. Here are a few wiki projects related to the environment, sustainability, and various diy technologies

Hacker | Solar - A knowledge repository on all subjects related to the practical application and praxis within the Solarpunk movement

Appropedia.org - The sustainability wiki

Energypedia.info - A wiki for renewable energy, energy access, and energy efficiency topics in developing countries

Open Source Ecology.org - A wiki for the Global Village Construction Set (GVCS) – a set of the 50 most important machines that it takes for modern life to exist – everything from a tractor, to an oven, to a circuit maker

Localwiki.org - A wiki for anyone, anywhere to be able to learn about where they live — their local government, the history of their neighborhoods, streets, social movements, noteworthy local figures, social services, schools — every facet of life in their community.

On the topic of high quality information of the commons, I think what we really need is a decentralized federated wiki technology, like lemmy but for wikis. One that uses some combination of consensus based peer review, version control, and author accreditation. As far as I know, nothing like this even remotely exists - yet.

Edit 01 - Added Hacker | Solar! There are some good articles, not alot of activity in the past year
Edit 02 - I just saw the post talking about the official slrpnk.net wiki! Great work folks!

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

I am currently stuck on the account integration for the official SLRPNK wiki though and probably will not have time to revisit this before early next year. I documented the necessary SQL queries here, which seem to return the correct answers, but I can't get Dokuwiki's built in AuthPDO plugin to work with them. My suspicion is that there is something non-standard in how this Dokuwiki plugin handles bcrypt password hashing. Help appreciated.

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

This is pure gold! Thank you

[–] philm@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for all the links, they are close to what I imagine. I need to check them out in detail.

On the topic of high quality information of the commons, I think what we really need is a decentralized federated wiki technology, like lemmy but for wikis. One that uses some combination of consensus based peer review, version control, and author accreditation. As far as I know, nothing like this even remotely exists - yet.

Yeah this would be pretty cool, similar as something like forgefed, There are so many wikis floating around, not being seen by potentially interested people, having something like that could enable easily linking between wikis and their different philosophies, or enable a federalized search for all kinds of topics. Hmm maybe I'll look into that...

[–] nix@merv.news 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish lemmy had a wiki section

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit's wiki section was such a treasure trove for getting started in a new hobby. I still cannot believe they got rid of that feature.

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

They got RID of it??? Between this and threatening to block Google, it's like they're TRYING to kill traffic to the site.

[–] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate, how that would work ?
Indeed could be good to keep longer-term ideas, rather than just reaction to news.

[–] nix@merv.news 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a regular wiki style section on each community

[–] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be good, might need also a talk page, 'rules' (effort for mods) ...? I suppose not too much demand on servers if just plain text, but how does this federate? For example, if I read a slrpnk wiki from sopuli, does sopuli have to pick up every edit, or only if I visit a page, or do i need an account on slrpnk to use it ?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

My imagination is that the wiki is hosted on the instance that also hosts the news/posts. It is one page per topic, a basic Markdown/HTML document. Probably an existing wiki-software could be used. I imagine you have to be logged in to do edits, and also there is a public change-history. Maybe a mod would have to approve of the changes first. If you visit the wiki as a reader, a copy of the page has to be sent. It would be lightweight on traffic though, since text is typically lightweight. I must suggest such a feature immediately on my home instance. Thank you

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

If you host it, i'll contribute a section

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It could start by having a pinned post thats updated with links to specific-topic posts. It would be a low barrier start, and it would make sure new topics (like washing dishes) show up in a feed. (If they don't show up in a feed I'm probably never going to read them)

Once there's enough content it'll be straightforward to convert to a wiki.

Topics I'd like to see are; short/simple guides to rainwater collection and solar panels