It should be matrix. I doubt anyone who really understands would be using discord. It was probably just copied from the reddit one.
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Came here to say this ๐ It's really not hard to get started or use, folks just drag their feet on it for some reason.
When I started using Matrix I definitely thought "wtf is this", but after 5 minutes and when I got invited to channels it all makes sense. Much prefer the privacy focused matrix
Count me out. Let me know when you revive the chat room on Matrix.
Could somebody just create a Matrix group/channel/room/space already?
There are plenty already, why not a joint?
More solidarity/less division would be nice but it doesn't mean that some individuals wouldn't need to prove themselves to the tasks.
it does sound like a joke
Security experts are not on discord. Sounds like a honeypot.
privacy communities are a joke. dont trust any of them
They always glow af
Yeah it is weird, you'd think a privacy community would at least use matrix for communication.. You don't have to ditch discord either if you set up a bridge between both
Out of curiosity, why Matrix and not these other options:
- Jabber/XMPP - has a creat client called Conversations (decentralised)
- SimpleX - by far the most anonymous and potentially decent privacy (centralised server)
- Session - a Signal fork without requiring phone number
- all of the above are listed on F-Droid
The main thing they lack is an easy to use Discord to [XMPP, simplex, session] bridge, If they have that then you could just hop on whichever you prefer and be in touch with the group. Love it or hate it, discord is the top chat app for the moment and being able to interact with it is a necessity.
Matrix has basically come in to place as IRC "2.0" with developers, nearly every fediverse project has Matrix channels, most open source projects in general are starting to have them. XMPP has many years on Matrix but it never took off in regards to that very critical niche of early adopters, developers and power users. XMPP was a good competetor to the web 1.0 chat apps of AIM and MSN but Discord and other apps are much more rich content focused.
Simplex seems to only have a command line interface for PC, it als owould be pretty clunky for groups i think, I have yet to see anyone advertise a Simplex "group chat" in the way they would a discord server, but perhaps there are examples out there.
Session is somewhat better but hinges on the success of a cryptocurrency for its continued development so thats a no from me, also seems to have a lot of scammers although perhaps not as bad as telegram.
Matrix has clients listed on F-Droid.
Should be only certified letters
Can't even trust owls, can't trust those blokes.
Anything that can turn it's head that far should never be trusted. Shifty bastards.
Certified? So they collect signatures? No thanks
It's a low-friction way to chat with other privacy-focused people. The alternative is something like Matrix which less people are going to use. That's the push and pull of trying to be 100% private vs. spreading privacy knowledge to more people.
You say that, but I see no evidence that Lemmy is a good place for privacy either, yet here you are. I know upvotes and down votes are public and I know that your post are freely shared and stored across the fediverse.
I don't mean this in a sort of "gotcha" way, but why shouldn't those things be public on this sort of platform? That seems like the bare minimum for a community to prosper
I don't mind if they are or aren't either way, but it doesn't make sense to tear down discord for essentially the same thing if you're ok with Lemmy doing it. Whether they should or shouldn't is another question. Also, it's possible for my upvotes and down votes to be collected but hidden much like it is on reddit.
Also, it's possible for my upvotes and down votes to be collected but hidden much like it is on reddit.
That's true for one single instance. But I'd think it'd be harder for your non home instances to track your votes without them being exposed in some way. Right?
Nah, every instance knows who up/down voted any post, reddit knew this data too but now anyone can spin up an instance to get it.
Which is kind of mandatory for how they've designed Lemmy. If you share upvotes between instances, then you've gotta provide sources. Otherwise it's too easy for one instance to manipulate all the others.
You could not share upvotes between instances, but that would really damage small instances. Imagine going to a small instance and instead of the Reddit front page you get the Reddit new page.