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Premier League looking at club wage caps to aid competition – Steve Parish
(www.independent.co.uk)
Would work well in a vacuum system.
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Work well at what? Further enriching owners at the expense of their workers?
Why would they do that though?
More sustainable to have a wage cap, assuming it's a percentage of revenue, and they'd still be able to outspend their peers on the continent because of the much larger revenue overall.
I believe UEFA is talking about bringing one in as well.
I believe UEFA is talking about bringing one in as well.
They are, over the next few years its going from 90% of revenue to Wages down to 70% once fully implemented. I remember reading Liverpool/City were around 65% with Everton coming in around 90 and the average of Championship was around the 100%
ssuming it's a percentage of revenue
would be terrible for non-big 6 sides
Really would depend on the % but yeah some clubs would be fucked, Ironically I believe Palace are one of the worst when it comes to Wage/Revenue
its pointless. they'll just get paid through other means. shady sponsors,shell companies, payments to relatives etc. and then some championship club is gonna get fined to oblivion for doing the same thing but not having good lawers.
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to aid competition
To aid parish’s pocket
Cost certainty and a theoretical ceiling on player wages.
No idea how it could work in an open league system, especially when a fair chunk of revenue is dependent on results and other leagues lack it.
I always figured they'd lean towards an MLB-style luxury tax.
This would kill the PL.
Why not take a page from US and give preferential rules in transfers to teams that do not win as much? The money is still a huge factor but for example, more access to young players, longer transfer periods for lower clubs…forms of motivating behavior that dont affect worldwide competition.
but what does “not win as much” look like?
you can’t have some sort of draft system because the bottom 3 teams get relegated, which means the championship is unfair
Theres a preety clear divide in teams that win and those that don’t. Past 4th place, some sort of benefit system enters…imagine that bottom 8 teams can get transfers done for twice as long.
Just random ideas I didnt think much, but I do believe there is more to be done on that level…instead of weird financial rules that always get circumvented or could just hinder professional competitivess.
I mean parachute payments already make the Championship MASSIVELY fucking unfair.
This would legitimately kill the PL if they did that.
Not a fan of this, there's loads of money in football and what this does is ensure that money goes to to Billionaire owners instead of the players.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but the competitiveness of the premier league from top to bottom is fine. Especially compared to other leagues. It is sport after all. You can’t just try and start from scratch and make every competitor somehow equal.
I agree the competitiveness seems to be really strong at the moment, the massive increases in foreign TV revenue (which I believe is split equally amongst the clubs) has meant almost all sides can spend a fair bit, pick up good players from across Europe and actually be competitive regularly against the big clubs and not just win a scrappy counter attacking game.
I think there's an argument to be made about splitting domestic revenue even more equally then it already is considering the big clubs don't rely on that money at all and it would help the teams lower down the table a lot. But i'm also biased in that situation.
think it is definitely on the wrong path
Only 6 clubs in England ever having a chance of winning the league is not fine.
Just because it's better than it is in Germany or Spain does not make it good.
American sports have us beat here, no two ways about it.
Even 6 is generous. Man City, Liverpool and maybe Arsenal are the only teams who have a realistic chance of winning the league.
100%, we can't just adopt the american system after well over a century for fuck sake. It wouldn't fly.
Long term gains but all the non Brit players would jump ship in a moment.
Would be a weird one for sure, if they rolled it out on a European level it would benefit more than just the Prem
The horse has bolted
It would just strengthen other leagues
Yes please lol
United would be fucked wym
Go la liga on those mfers
Anti competitive bullshit.
Horse has bottled from the stadium on this one a long, long time ago.
Would be lovely sure, however I don't see FIFA/UEFA making this happen (or even work! Looking at you FFP)
Let the players get paid whatever they can get. This only makes the rich owners richer, no wonder they want it.
Salary caps don't aid parity, they just screw over labor for the sake of billionaires' bottom line. It's a myth owners tell fans to get them to be okay with it.
"Revenue sharing* is what creates parity. Call me when the big European leagues starting doing that American-style.
Luxury tax system like baseball and it’s a uefa rule
No way. This would open the door for other leagues to become more competitive.
The only reason the premier league is attractive to players is the wages (sorry guys, it was never the dream of Mo Salah to spend his days in Liverpool weather) and the premier league is not suffering (yet) from lack of competition.
Weird take
Don't agree with the first part, even if you don't take into account wages the PL is still as attractive as any other big league outside of La Liga
Yeh we don't have the best weather granted but don't tell me the UK isn't one of if not the best countries to live and travel to play top flight football.
To live not, I am pretty sure most players love warmer and sunnier place. But clearly to leave is not that bad at all, specially London.
And of course Premier league is one of not the best league in the world. But it partially because of the league being able to attract talent with very high wages. The argument is a bit the chicken and the egg here I reckon
The argument is a bit the chicken and the egg here I reckon
Yeh true
Players union won't agree. The big clubs won't agree. And it won't stop off the books payments either, just like it didn't stop Saracens in the rugby PL with their salary cap.
Yea, teams like chelsea are out here buying the league right now
If all the clubs were locally owned, which would be strongest?
I can think of a hundred ways to circumvent a wage cap. It wouldn't make a difference even if implemented.
No chance this happens in the EPL let alone the other big 4 leagues. Caps are a North American thing and should stay there
This is something that should have been addressed decades ago. It’s too late now.
Think that horse has already bolted you fucking clowns
One could have a 2 birds 1 stone approach by setting up a Minutes/Matches per 12 months Limit for players (NOT the clubs, who could play 200 matches a season if they want) and mandate that wages be per/Match (or per minutes, hour, etc. Can include availability in club training premises and so on).
The over-exertion thing is mitigated, the wages thing is addressed without destroying clubs & players ability to negotiate for themselves.
Clubs are happy since they get to play same number of fixtures (even more with Squad limits also increasing to say 30 or so).
Lowly teams will have higher odds over the season to create upsets since bigger teams won't be playing best 11 every single fixture.
The only ones who'll whine the most about these changes are the Fantasy League users.
Mind you, Steve Parish green lit his club paying Max Meyer, former wonder kid from Germany, £180k/week 5 years ago. If anyone took full advantage of the early benefits that came from the Premier League blossoming into the world's most commercially successful league, it was him. He contributed to the problem and is now looking to put a cap on it because it doesn't benefit him anymore. He misses the days where his club could spend £32 million on Benteke and that was as expensive as the flops use to be back then.
Btw, while Steve Parish is the topic. He proposes we put a cap on the women's game. The investment required to make the Crystal Palace women's team competitive is comparatively small compared to every other aspect of running the men's team. When they talk to the fans, he'll happily say things like we need to spend to take the next step. But the same logic isn't applied to the women's game. He doesn't get it and doesn't even want to attempt to get it.
Bad idea in the long term.
Only makes sense if there is no relegation either
I think that's how the Americans get owners on board with it
Obviously never gunna happn
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