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[–] Veltoss@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a "Hamas target" and it's "Hamas' responsibility to protect civilians" while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.

Crazy that more people aren't speaking up against this.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Once Palestinians starteing evacuating North Gaza, Israel bombed the humanitarian corridor that they'd declared as safe.

Russia did the same to Ukrainians last year and EU & NATO & UN supported Ukraine. Now they support Israel.

[–] dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear to God, I can’t name another country that takes such little criticism ever in the MSM other than Israel.

A fucking hospital ffs.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Their WW2 guilt trip game be strong.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For many it's the sunk cost fallacy.

They've rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.

"The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning -- sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just -- I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind.

Bonnie: I will not change my mind.

The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."

-Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who

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[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It's all about money...always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as "antisemitism"

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Agreed. It's also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I will never fault someone for standing up for their people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn't put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren't to blame for what's going on - Zionist are.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this "war," other than Bibi and his toadies?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I've yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy...even the ones who support an Israeli state.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think I support the idea of Israel because they've historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it's not my land being given away to make it. It's the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.

Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I'm pretty sure Palestine won't exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie...

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[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US President Joe Biden will once again emphasise Israel's “right and duty” to defend itself.

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[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I don't understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hasan called this yesterday. Of course he was right

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.

I remember Russia staging a "Ukrainian missle attack", but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too...

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It's just a ridiculous claim.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

It blew up a car park the hospital is still operating lol

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[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

My heart is breaking.

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