Pidgin did it, meebo did it... Noww they are doing it.
Good luck to them
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2023
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Also trillian way back in the day.
Edit: dang, pidgin came first as gaim.
Much nostalgia!
Anyone remember Trillian?
I tried so hard to get chat apps working on my phone back in 2010...sigh.
Trillian was the best.
The good old days. Even bought it
Beeper sets a good premise. Talk to your friends without ever bugging them about hopping over to a completely new app. You might convert some, but not most.
There's a downside to E2EE on bridged chats but if that's not acceptable within your threat model then you wouldn't be using it in the first place.
Hello Disa my old friend...
there are exactly three messaging apps: Signal, Matrix/Element/SMS or RCS. anyone that wants to reach out has those options. I've had a lot of Signal converts.
The neat thing is that Beeper is natively a Matrix app with bridges to the other services.
Is Beeper open source? If not, I'm unfortunately unable to extend my trust to yet another 3rd party with unverifiable code.
Their client is a closed source fork of Element, but you can use Element and other Matrix clients instead. Likewise, the bridges are open-source and you can self-host it all.
Replace RCS with XMPP, one is in practice only available through Google's approval while XMPP is a standard created by the same organization that create IP (Internet) and SMTP (Email).
Appreciate the comment. I would like to do that but RCS is basically the default "SMS" option on Android making it broadly available to nearly half my contacts, the onboarding is basically "text me", whereas I'd have to provide some sort of instruction if I wanted to onboard anyone onto XMPP, in addition to recommending a good client depending on what OS they're running.
Since when is RCS the default SMS? Maybe on Google devices (perhaps Samsung), and even thats only recently.
Plus RCS is too little, too late, and has delivery/notification issues every bit as problematic as SMS.
Samsung alone is ~25% of the global Android smartphone market share [0]. This means 1 in 4 Android users will send "SMS" messages via RCS. You're right, it's not actually default, but it may as well be considering the app has over 5 billion downloads [1] and over 800 million monthly active users (MAU) [2]. This makes Google's Messages app slightly more popular than Telegram with 700 million MAU [3]. It may be a recent change, but its already taking over some of the more popular apps in terms of usage and general availability.
RCS is is late to the game but it's caught up and only getting better.
[0] You'll need to subtract Apple from the market share total to calculate the 25% as they include Apple in these numbers and I'm only talking about Android devices. Source: https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/global-smartphone-share/
[1] Source: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
[2] Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/rcs-800-million-users-3323216/
[3] Telegram MAU. Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/234038/telegram-messenger-mau-users/
Yeah, and they still aren't letting new users in, so it's kinda useless
They are. Anyone with an account can invite you to skip the waitlist.
Alas, neither the waitlist reaching me months later, nor meeting someone willing to send an invite have occurred lol.
Have you checked the pinned thread on Reddit? I know we mainly hate Reddit here but Iβve seen people having luck.
Send me a PM and I'll pull mine up!