AI reads text from ancient Herculaneum scroll for the first time : technology

[–] Miclux@lemmings.world 44 points 11 months ago

"Epstein didn't kill himself"

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sooo... how can they verify that it is reading it correctly...?

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We can see how it makes the translation and verify that it's making accurate judgements based on the data it's being fed. We can check the AI against controls too, other scrolls that we know what they say already and feed it data on them until it gets very accurate on those ones. Then apply that model to these unknown scrolls.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 14 points 11 months ago

Note that the AI discussed in the article wasn’t translating anything. It was determining what was written in the original language by using scans of sections of the scroll, taking into account patterns (the “crackle”), differences in texture, etc., that hadn’t been leveraged in this way before.

Otherwise you’re spot on - it was trained on other similar scans that exhibited those patterns where the written text was already known.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks to you and the next person for the extra detail.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

We already know the language that's not what they are saying, this is reading the inside the rolled up scroll that's too fragile to unroll so we don't know what was in there

[+] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] JamesBean@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I want an AI based translation of all the Dead Sea Scrolls as long as we can remove the bias from the training data.

Emphasis mine. So then you don't want an AI based translation of all the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Reality is biased.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

All the Dead Sea Scrolls that we know of. I am about 90% sure we have them all, 10% that the Vatican has a text fragments or two that they are sitting on.

It shouldn't take 40-45 years to take a few photographs and any translation difficulties would be better solved by the community vs individual professors.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't see the point, I've never seen an AI that can translate better than a human

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

That doesn't mean one doesn't exist. Think of how far video transcription has come in the last decade. AI will absolutely surpass human ability to quickly and very accurately translate text.

[–] Heratiki@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of capability a human will have a bias. So maybe have multiple humans of varying beliefs and then have the AI train to remove the bias?

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago

AI might also have a bias depending on its training data.

[–] 0000000nowhere@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Can AIs summon demons?

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