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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, this definitely doesn't sound like retaliation /s

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible,” Herzog said at a press conference on Friday. “It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true. They could have risen up. They could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’etat.”

When a reporter asked Herzog to clarify whether he meant to say that since Gazans did not remove Hamas from power “that makes them, by implication, legitimate targets,” the Israeli president claimed, “No, I didn’t say that.”

But he then stated: “When you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself?”

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can imagine Hamas using identical justification for their murder and kidnapping of Israeli citizens. “Why didn’t they rise up against their government that is killing women and children in Gaza?” I’m so embarrassed that the US is greasing up this war machine.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And you can argue that a democratic population is somehow more guilty of whatever their government do that the population of a dictatorship. If the people of Israel wanted peace with Palestine, they would vote for someone else.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I can't support that argument, if only because voters can't know for sure how their candidates are going to react to different situations and might genuinely believe they'll handle it in a way that doesn't involve war crimes

Then again, maybe it's just because I'm an American and know all too well what sort of attrocities my democratically elected government has carried out over the years

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Netanyahu has a record he ran on. Enough people were comfortable with that record to get the fucker elected and re-elected.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Imagine if Americans voted Trump in again.

You know what you’re getting with some politicians and that’s the same with ol’ Netty.

[–] mawkishdave@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Both sides have done horrible things and will keep doing horrible things. I wish I had a good answer but I don't. The really shit part is this will make Ukraine suffer even more if Russian plan works gets focus away from Ukraine.

[–] KingCrimson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy crap, how did I miss this

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's been a busy couple of days for horrible things

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is Blinken, embracing his expanded role in selling active genocide. What a goddamn monster. The Biden administration has lost all moral credibility.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

According to Biden, "If there weren’t an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region."

I don't know why anyone thinks anyone capable of getting elected to run a country has any credibility.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bullshit

(Obligatory fuck hamas and anyone else that uses unarmed civilians as tools or shields, which includes the idf)

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Israel's PM literally called it "mighty vengeance" but ok...