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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Phones should be turned off or left at home anyways when protesting. Here are my 10 commandments for engaging in protests:

1: never bring your wallet/ID. If you need to buy things, bring cash

2: either shut off your phone or leave it with your wallet. Recording police violence can be useful, in that case get the aclu app, a burner phone with the app, or an action camera

3: never speak to police under any circumstance

4: you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride

5: bring water, it's more useful than for just drinking

6: bring hats, sunglasses, etc to avoid being identified by the state if it gets violent

7: wear good running shoes

8: know your rights, both federal and local, and when to use them

9: take out any contact lenses in case police use tear gas

10: stay aware of your surroundings; listen to picket line enforcers/community organizers

[–] Mr_Figtree@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are all fine in the US, but in other countries not carrying proof of identity can get you into some trouble, as can refusing to talk to the police. Know your local laws.

[–] ThorCroix@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is what people say about Germany but my teacher says that she didn't have an id card for 10 years and only got one because of tour to a place organised by her university required to show id card to be put in their touring list. As far as her experience goes, no authority ever put her in trouble for not carrying an ID.

The same way that the police never put me in trouble for mu id card not having my address.

About not talking to the police, it is actually a right you have in Germany despite popular gossip saying otherwise.

The problem of not talking to the police is that the police can create reasons to put you in troubles for not doing so, as the police have the privilege of authority, power and legal/public trust.

But when questioned by the police, if it is worth, you have the right to have e lawer to answer it for you or to guide you on your answer according to laws.

[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can always be found not guilty in court, but if the police want to take you in, it's better to just go willingly

[–] vita_man@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is scary because it could be exploited very easily by bad actors and is a huge invasion of privacy

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“Bad actors” -> like the police?

[–] mekkagodzilla@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The French state is a bad actor already.

[–] CantStopPoppin@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

If they are allowed to do these other countries will follow suit. This is a dangerous precedent in which no one is safe regardless of boarders.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If they ever convince the manufacturer to enable these features, it’s time to leave that manufacturer

[–] octatron@lmy.drundo.com.au 1 points 1 year ago

Passing laws that violate peoples privacy should only be passed by a vote from the people. This is bullshit

[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the same government that says using an ad blocker, vpn, custom rom, linux and or encrypted messaging service puts you at higher suspicion of being a terrorist.

I see them enacting these policies now as the large number of pro labor protests fighting the government all over the country on pensions “reform”.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago

They're likely right for that assumption. Modern day terrorism I think would require a basic ability to use computers. It doesn't make it likely, but more likely is probably right. I don't expect much organized terrorism that's not going to use some of those tools.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you say "All Cops Are Bastards" in French?

[–] drvedder@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No an exact equivalent, but a common catchphrase during protests is "Police partout, Justice nulle part" : "Police everywhere, Justice nowhere".