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Which coincedentally is the same place Arsenal's title challenge fell off last season.

Yeah definitely, although you are comparing his first season in a top level team (no offense Dortmund lol) to the best numbers Messi and Ronaldo ever put up.

We would need to talk about this matter in like 7 years or so.

The guy is more of a midfielder than say de bruyne. Bellingham plays the whole pitch, total football incarnate

He is an incredibly good scorer. It's the kind of player that changes a game.

It's why everyone puts Ronaldo Fenomeno in their XI, because he was the best finisher, you could count on him turning a game with his physicality and finishing.

CR7 and Messi are outliers and people should remember that. Only two players in all history have been that gamebreaking.

My comment is not really about the idea he can’t have a bad game, it’s whether his skillset allows him to holistically, consistently impact the full game in the way the absolute best do.

You mean those goals that count towards the scoreline?

It sounds kind of rude but it's the truth and realising the ceiling is the first step to push beyond it.

I'm not entirely sure if the club wants to realise this too though, the last transfer window was far from convincing.

Feels more like settling to me but it can be kind of disheartening when it happens every other season.

Like how do you make the Ruhrpott attractive to star players when they dont 100% identify with the mentality and the people there knowing that you can pay well but you cant pay Man City/Real Madrid well, knowing you're able to compete for most titles but chances of winning are a different story?

On top of that individual ambitions will always be better realised at the behemoth clubs like chance for ballon d'or, individual sponsoring and contracts etc

Then there is the lifestyle and glamour factor too which you also cant ignore, especially when there is partners or family involved.

But they didn’t stay which is proving my point

You need to be able to do a bit more at the end of the day if you want to be regarded in such circles

Agreed. I think he's the best at what he does. Devastating even. But the goat of goats all have more aspects to their game than he currently does.

Shearer had 34, Salah's best is 32

That almost started after the Atlético game. People will bring up again the Bild article about how his Dortmund teammates hated him.

Mbappe dropped 0.02 xG vs Newcastle as well but all people talk about is haaland

Scoring goals is the hardest job in football. Just ask my team :3

You are selling CR7 short. Some of Cristiano's performances in knockout rounds of CLs in threepeat are stuff of almost unattainable legend. If Haaland can come close to that, hats truly off. But I doubt that he will.

Do you feel Haaland’s contribution when he isn’t scoring is equivalent to those two players?

And the all time English record is held by Greaves. Don’t be pedantic, you knew they meant season.