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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season

[–] ray@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only if there are gay people involved and being happy

also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And Lockwood

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[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it.

I still don’t get why they’re doing this.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it.

CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer.

Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company.

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[–] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 11 points 1 year ago

Apparently it’s a tax write off.

It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit.

[–] koreth@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.

Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.

Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!

If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:

  • A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
  • Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.

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[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying it's already cancelled again.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

new record incoming, removed from the service before even being added.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i like prodigy but i hate netflix :(

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

She’s still dead ……. :(

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hello guybrush threepwood you sure are mighty

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How appropriate. You fight like a cow!

At least you'll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago
[–] GoodAaron@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hi everyone! Netflix by far is the best home for Prodigy in the current streaming landscape.

They have the largest media share and Star Trek has historically done exceptionally well on their service — this opens the door for more seasons of our show.

Animated shows like “The Dragon Prince” have run up to seven seasons on Netflix.

“Longmire” was saved from cancellation and was renewed for an additional five seasons by Netflix. So was “Lucifer,” and many others.

Feel free to celebrate!

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw this article first, but startrek.com has an announcement with a couple of brief quotes:

“Thank you to our incredible Star Trek: Prodigy fans, who championed not just a show, but a community that’s always been connected by the belief that we build a better future together,” said executive producer Alex Kurtzman and co-showrunners Dan and Kevin Hageman. “We set out to inspire you, but you inspired us. The team is still hard at work on the second season, and we can’t wait to share it with the amazing fans around the world.”

“I've always held that the Star Trek fan base is among the strongest and most intelligent in the world. They have shown their collective passion, and we’re happy to be able to celebrate Prodigy once again,” said Kate Mulgrew, voice of Admiral Janeway.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Kate Mulgrew sure knows how to please her fans.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Excluded from the deal are Canada, where Prodigy is carried by CTV.ca and the CTV App, and in SkyShowtime’s European territories: the Nordics, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Central and Eastern Europe.

[–] WrittenWeird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This Canadian currently pays for:

  • Premium/4k/ Expensive Netflix
  • Amazon Prime
  • Disney+
  • Paramount+
  • YouTube Premium
  • Crave (going away at Christmas)
  • Curiosity Stream
  • CBC Gem
  • Spotify

The CTV App can fuck itself. I'll be pirating the show and I'm not even ashamed.-

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeeze, I wasn't even aware that Gem had a paid tier...

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You pay more for streaming then cable used to cost.

[–] WrittenWeird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not quite, but it's getting closer.

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, Canada must charge a lot more for cable than the US then. When I cut the cord in 2012 I was paying about $60 USD per month. I just got an offer for $70/mo for 2 years. You are paying more then that at least.

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was paying $120ish for cable in 2014 (not including cable internet, with that it was nearly $200). We would have cut the cord earlier, but without cable our internet went way up and we may as well have had cable too.

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they tried that here too. Luckily the state stepped in and made it hard for the cable company to monopolize the system like that.

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[–] 2000mph@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad it got picked up. I thought it would be Amazon Prime most likely to get it as they'd already invested in Picard. But I'm fine with Netflix. I'm due to get back round to Netflix after Christmas on my subscription rotation plan so hopefully I can binge watch both seasons of Prodigy by then.

[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

I was hoping for Prime, but their kids offering is pretty anemic compared to Netflix. With the cost of Netflix it only gets a few months a year in our household too

[–] billmason@mastodon.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was actually linking to it as you sent this!

[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good change. I think we could be in a much better place if companies that owned both production and streaming were more open about licensing.

The pendulum seems to be swinging back toward that model, at least in some cases.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't let friends use streaming TV subscriptions.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yar 🏴‍☠️

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum it is then.

[–] porthos@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

WOOF WOOF WOOF

[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry I have nothing to contribute to the discussion except:

YES!!!!!!!

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