China embarks on production of a new generation of nuclear-armed submarines that for the first time are expected to ~~pose a challenge to growing U.S. and allied efforts to track them.~~ not sink themselves
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this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
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But I thought that was the whole point of a submarine
Lot of effort just to sit at the bottom of the ocean.
With nuclear missiles, not too far from US/EU coastlines. That's an important precision.
China's subsurface capabilities are laughable at best.
They are decades behind even Russia and pose no real threat to anyone but the same small Asian neighbors they have been bullying for years.
Sonobuoys: "Am I a joke to you?"
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Analysts and regional defence attaches say evidence is mounting that China is on track to have its Type 096 ballistic missile submarine operational before the end of the decade, with breakthroughs in its quietness aided in part by Russian technology.
The discreet effort to track China's nuclear-powered and -armed ballistic missile submarines, known as SSBNs, is one of the core drivers of increased deployments and contingency planning by the U.S. Navy and other militaries across the Indo-Pacific region.
The research also details potential breakthroughs in specific areas, including pump-jet propulsion and internal quieting devices, based on "imitative innovation" of Russian technology.
The vessel is likely to be significantly larger than the Type 094, allowing it to contain an internal "raft" mounted on complex rubber supports to dampen engine noise and other sounds, similar to Russian designs.
Carlson told Reuters he did not believe China had obtained Russia's "crown jewels" - its very latest technology - but would be producing a submarine stealthy enough to compare to Moscow's Improved Akula boats.
"China is on track with a new generation of submarine ahead of the first AUKUS boats - even if they are at parity in terms of capability, that is highly significant," said Neill, an adjunct fellow at Hawaii's Pacific Forum think-tank.
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