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As far as I see that instance is a far-right cess pool. Everything I've got from that instance were low-quality transphobic "news articles".

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[–] kbity@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nazis aren't welcome here, best they learn that now rather than through a long process of being told by everyone else here to fuck off.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After a while of thinking and reviewing, I have come to the conclusion to defederate as requested. If they correct course, I'll happily re-review them.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago
[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Looks like this is really a right wing/fake/hate news instance. No love is lost defederating them.

So: Yes, please!

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just block their domain in your instance.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How? I can only block communities, but not a whole instance. That's the core of the problem. It's not just **one ** toxic community that we could easily block, it's pretty much the entire server.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on kbin, so this isn't even my instance, but I really don't want to be part of an intolerant echo chamber of "good" people incapable of blocking magazines they don't like and instead trying to control what other people say and hear. No thanks to that.

[–] Oshka@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Read up. Then punch a nazi. Don't need that shit anywhere in society.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it's crucial to oppose harmful ideologies like Nazism, we must be wary of how we define such harmful groups. If we broaden these definitions arbitrarily, we risk encapsulating people who merely differ politically, diluting the term's significance and unjustifiably alienating individuals. In doing so, we inadvertently shrink our own communities, polarizing society to the extent where a moderate viewpoint might be mistaken for extremism. Right-leaning communities fall into this trap as well, resulting in fragmented realities where each group exists in its own echo chamber. This division deepens societal fissures and undermines moderate views, which, in my belief, are grounded in reality and thus instrumental in achieving balanced discourse.

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Soooooo here's a helpful hint to tamp down that utter confusion you seem to be having:

The guys who want armed guard genital inspectors in front of every bathroom are the bad guys.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who exactly holds the authority to label 'the bad guys'? Sure, some actions are undeniably harmful, but does that warrant placing all perceived wrongdoers in the same category, from internet trolls to murderers? Is there no nuance or room for varying degrees of transgressions? I hope you can ask yourself if you're always on the side of righteousness, or might you be perceived as 'the bad guy" from another perspective? It's important to understand that the world is not simply binary, and such a mindset can dangerously oversimplify complex issues.

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Who exactly holds the authority to label 'the bad guys'?

People who don't get their rocks off by investing more effort into hating the marginalized.

This isn't about me and this isn't about subtlety. On the whole LGBT+haters are nazi adjacent and they get a kick out of hating the marginalized, and they do it VERY LOUDLY.

Like literally it's the AMERICA FIRST!ers here that are now specifically hating on like the two or three trans people in each state who play sports, and like the maybe handful of total trans people in each state in comparison to state population.

[–] Pelicanen@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, they never stated otherwise, but transphobic measures doesn't necessarily make one a nazi. It makes you awful but there are different kinds of awful than just nazism. The risk of calling everyone a nazi is that you dilute what the word actually means so that you risk generalizing and uniting the awful people instead of separating them based on their various horrendous opinions.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

transphobic measures doesn't necessarily make one a nazi

True but neither ideology deserves a spot at the table of civilized discourse. So it's a bit of a moot point.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a moot point when we consider the fluidity of language and the potential for any group to manipulate terms to suit their interests. If someone can blanket-label their opposition as a 'transphobe' or, more extreme, a 'Nazi', it bypasses meaningful debate and eradicates the chance to understand differing viewpoints. This not only oversimplifies complex discussions, but it also fosters a lazy and destructive discourse that can fuel animosity rather than understanding. We need to be challenged. A tree that grows without wind will not have the strength to stand in a storm.

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Imagine using the ammo of "complexity" and the subjectivity of language to defend wholly unsubtle people who explicity want others harassed/harmed/dead for being their authentic selves and that authenticity has absolutely NOTHIGN to do with them personally

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of people screaming about bathrooms in the US are in fact Nazis or nazi adjacent.

There is NO reason to dump that much hate on like two or three people per state unless you just enjoy the cruelty.

[–] tookmyname@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bigotry should be banned, and removed from this instance. That means not allowing bigotry on our instance. That means defederating from less clever wannabe 4chans, and less moderated The_D replacements.

They can enjoy their shithole federation.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly 4chan is much better than some of these instances.

[–] Merlin@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago

Echo chambers are for over sensitive Nancy boys.