this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2023
125 points (92.5% liked)

Alternative Nation: The Fediverse's Alternative and Indie Music Community

3503 readers
8 users here now

Alternative Nation : The Fediverse's largest alternative and indie music community! All things alternative music, from 80s college rock to today's indie and all the amazing alternative music in between. Welcome home, music nerds!

Some of y'all may remember MTV's Alternative Nation or 120 Minutes, awesome programs & incredible ways to discover #music back in the 80s & 90s...

Welcome, to the Fediverse edition!

🎵🎧🎶

Subscribe, share, & chat!

Share youtube, songwhip, spotify, bandcamp links, music memes, album art, articles, whatever! But avoid links to directly download music (don't want to get Lemmy.world in trouble). Songwhip links always appreciated!

See this post on recs on how to post!

The Golden Rule: Music taste is subjective so don't be a gatekeeping asshole. There's no "bad music", only music you like or don't like.

We Are A Community: So no racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, or spam.

🎵 Let's get lost in the Fediverse's record store together! 🎶

Other Lemmy music communities to explore and support:

Where to find ren:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary: "Beyoncé is selling “listening only” tickets for her Renaissance tour. The seats are behind the stage, so you can’t see any of the set or dancing, but they only cost $157 compared to the ~$900 fans have been paying for regular US tickets."

haha!

fuuuuuuuck that.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fuck these ultra wealthy pop stars. They are part of the problem. There are millions of independent artists across hundreds of genres we can support instead.

And I know it's subjective to a large extent but 90% of pop is absolute garbage.

[–] You999@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem isn't exactly the pop stars but live nation's monopoly which strangles every aspect of the live music industry. As a musician if you want to preform at almost any large venue you'll have to get in bed with live nation or be black listed. If you run venue you better join live nation's network and use ticket master or else you won't be able to book money making artists. And as a fan you better buy your price gouged tickets through ticket master or else you won't get to see anyone play.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Except you can't actually buy the tickets through Ticketmaster because it throws errors for the first 5 seats you find, and then it's sold out. You have to buy them from scalpers, which Ticketmaster now encourages and even allows them to resell right there on Ticketmaster.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait 900$ for a concert? That's dumb enough for me.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they've gotten crazy if you are a big-big name like Swift, Beyonce, Drake, etc. Don't know how people can drop that kind of scratch!

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if there is anything in live entertaining I would pay 900, or actually I'm pretty sure there is nothing.

[–] thelongshot93@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Festivals where you're there for multiple days and seeing dozens of artists are the only thing I'd drop money like that on. One artist? Not a chance.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Dang, would never pay that much money for a festival - would just workt there :D

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't know how people can drop that kind of scratch!

Credit cards!

[–] ren@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

been there, did that, did not end well.

[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd pay $157 for Beyonce to shut the fuck up.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'll chip in

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Times like these I'm so glad I love metal. I can pay 30 bucks to WATCH, listen and go sick to a band full of talent. I'd be livid if I was an artist and saw that my fans were having to pay $900

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm watching 156 quality bands at brutal assault for like 100 euro

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Niiice! I'm seeing Be'lakor when they get back from their Euro tour for $30 in September. Can't ask for better than that!

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way. Be'lakor is my most anticipated band on the brutal assault lineup. I have been listening since stone's reach!!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blind people might be interested?

[–] ren@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If it was an accessibility thing, I’d get it. But it ain’t.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This sounds like streaming music with extra steps.

[–] Biscuit303@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

I paid $60 for 5th row tickets to Ween at red rocks and $5 for a hit of acid - probably better than a front row Beyoncé ticket. $900 for anything but a combined front row/meet and greet/over the pants HJ from an artist sounds just absolutely insane to me.

[–] legion@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So by Beyonce's own math, only about 17% of her performance's value is actually the music.

Sounds about right.

I'm not a Beyonce fan by and stretch of the imagination, but she is a crazy good singer.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

Before everyone freaks out (and yes, this shit is stupid-expensive), Beyoncé isn't a complete piece of shit. But I guess you can afford this when you charge that much:

Beyoncé’s tour paid $100,000 to extend DC Metro hours after weather delayed show

Beyoncé’s “Renaissance” tour paid $100,000 to keep all 98 Metro stations in the Washington, DC, area open for an extra hour after Sunday’s show at the outdoor FedExField venue was delayed because of heavy rain and lightning, a news release from the transit authority said.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Beyonce is worth over $1/2 BILLION. Fuck off.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Under the stage for $75, all you hear boomy bass and foot tapping from one of the biggest stars of all time!

[–] Multech@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is just fucking ridiculous. Paying $157 to go to a concert for a regular seat for me is already a bit much, let alone this bullshit. The saddest thing is that I bet these seats will still sell out.

[–] TheBestUsername@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My nosebleed Taylor Swift concert tickets were cheaper than this, and I didn't miss a single scene of the show.

Beyoncé really thinks she's better than Taylor?

[–] kembik@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Beyoncé really thinks she’s better than Taylor?

Why not? Her fans do. You say it like its something that can be true, that one artist's art is objectively better than another's. I think they both make uninspired boring music personally. In either case they are both very popular and sell out shows wherever they go.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Well we know Kanye's opinion of that. He's gonna let you finish though.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this is shitty, I don't really care about Beyoncé and didn't subscribe to this community to see news about her. I hope it doesn't end up as a dunking on mainstream music community instead of a showcasing sweet alternative music community.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hear you, this is really more about the state of concerts & concert tickets which medium-sized and old-school alternative & indie acts still have to deal with… Pearl Jam has fought the good fight since the 90s, The Cure is still dealing with it 30 years later.

[–] useless_modern_god@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I reckon it’s good call posting this article. It’s painfully obvious we aren’t here to discuss Beyoncé and her catalogue or talent. Got some really nice engagement with this one.👍

[–] ren@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

we did indeed! Got the community some visibility I think too. We growing!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pearl Jam still exists? If so, wow!

[–] ren@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to go to a lot of concerts, but after COVID they got too expensive. $100 is insane for a ticket. $900 is almost rent. Who is her target audience?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

how in the world are tickets so expensive in the US? you can get tickets to big names when they tour here for like $200AU, the same acts that charge triple or more in the US. Is it a demand thing? blows my mind

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If its stupid and it works it aint stupid.

I mean there will be people paying for it and it doesnt affect me in any way. People can spent the money they make the way they like as far as I am conferned.

Whether that is stupid so be it their own fault if they buy those tickets.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I don't care if rich people price everyone out of every commodity. This particular instance of gentrification doesn't affect me so none of the others will, either!"

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ren@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m reminded of the meme:

“Capitalism breeds innovation!

The innovation:”

So does this mean what used to be “the cheap seats” become mid-tier seats? This makes me think of this sub-economy airline tickets. Everything just gets worse and worse.

load more comments
view more: next ›