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One of the most aggravating things to me in this world has to be the absolutely rampant anti-intellectualism that dominates so many conversations and debates, and its influence just seems to be expanding. Do you think there will ever actually be a time when this ends? I'd hope so once people become more educated and cultural changes eventually happen, but as of now it honestly infuriates me like few things ever have.

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[โ€“] pingveno@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think it's becoming better overall, not worse. Yes, there's a populism issue at the moment, but this is far from the first time that's happened. We're dealing with the introduction of an entire new means of communication, online media in general and social media more specifically. That brings all new hazards and benefits that need to be dealt with.

The era after the printing press was developed brought intellectual development, but it also sparked revolutions. Those didn't always wind up with that right people getting into power. It took a while for society to adapt and stabilize. I expect the same will happen with Internet communication.

I'm also hopeful because studies have shown that successive generations generally improve their abilities in abstract thinking. (I'm having trouble sourcing that statement, unfortunately). That's important for the economy because the jobs of the future will need that abstract thinking. At least in my experience, it also acts as a bulwark against bad actors because people with poorer abstract thinking abilities tend to be more gullible, at least when it comes to lies that they like.

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[โ€“] marco@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Illiberal populism isn't going anywhere, unfortunately.

[โ€“] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

People who believe they are intellectual rarely are, or they would be able to couch their points in more accessible ways.

[โ€“] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think anyone's anti intellectual, people use rhetoric to defend their ideas, to defend their ways, to justify what they've already done. If you used your intelligence and started to agree with people, no one would challenge you, you wouldn't run into anti-intellectual bias.

When you challenge people, or disagree with them, they're going to use rhetoric against you, and that often is portrayed as anti-intellectual. If they think you're a threat they'll attack you by any means possible

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[โ€“] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So true.

People are forced into school to "learn how to learn". Yeah no shit, what happens is that many dont want to learn anything anymore.

I have to live in a bubble, because I really enjoy and often have discussions with many people about all sorts of things.

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[โ€“] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe that's not what's happening to begin with. I reject the entire premise. And all the users in here humble bragging is honestly nauseating.

[โ€“] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait til AI takes prominence. What effect on intellectualism that might have remains to be seen. As long as LLMs aren't tailored to bias certain views, it may just lift humanity.

[โ€“] Senuf@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I somehow envy your optimism.

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i think eventually nothing will matter even to the living, so there will be no use for emotion or conflict. the fact that one doesnt know if theyll have food tomorrow, or if theyll be there tomorrow gives meaning to the fighting. so i feel that it makes sense that people are the way they are

[โ€“] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People will remain stupid. But I'm somewhat hopeful that in the next few decades we see AI develop enough that it truly constitutes superintelligence relative to us, and that the scalability of it tips the scales of the continual standoff between intelligence and stupidity forever.

Because I have little hope for humanity overcoming its own multiplying stupidity on its own.

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