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TNG s6e6 "True Q"

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[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

?

She had no other children at this time.

If referring to Jack, he wasn't born yet.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

And even referring to Jack, "We had no other children" would be true.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~During her absence in season 2 is when she had Jack. In the scene in question, she pauses for a noticeable moment before answering.~~

Scratch that. According to Terry Matalas: “around the timeframe of Nemesis.”

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, Jack is the result of Picard and Beverly finally getting together after the events of Nemesis and Insurrection.

Now, that does make Beverly 55+ when she had him. But future medicine and all that I guess?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

55 ain't what is used to be. Jeri Ryan is 55 now.

So, misplaced timeline aside, Beverly "to blave" Crusher is not to be taken at her word.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For context, back in the 80's, Betty White's character (Rose) was fifty-five in Season 1. The youngest Golden Girl was 48. Back then, anything over forty was retirement home material apparently. I'm fifty and am pretty much the same guy I was at 25, doing the same things

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

”to blave”

lol, I heard that in Miracle Max’s voice. Nice.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not about looks when you talk about having kids at older age. Its about genetic risk factors, increasing the risk the pregnancy goes wrong or your child will have issues.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not even about that.

Like 99% of women have hit menopause by 55, and the number of births for mothers over 50 with no medical intervention in the conception process is extremely low. So low that Wikipedia has an article detailing specific women it's happened to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

This wouldn't be a huge deal, except a major plot point is that it was an accidental pregnancy neither of them planned for. So it's not like she was getting any kind of fertility treatment.

While not impossible it just makes Jacks conception extremely unlikely

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's the future! waves hands mysteriously

[–] ApostleO@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

The fact Q shows up at the end to meet Jack makes me wonder if he had anything to do with the "accident".

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teleporters, Warp speed, and phasers you have no issues with, but medical science advancing enough to extend the human period of fertility is unrealistic?

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

If she were trying to have children, sure then I can believe medical science could make that happen.

But menopause happens in part because the body runs out of viable eggs. The body doesn't produce more over a life; you are born with your supply.

Why would medical science have given her more eggs at some point?

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

JERI RYAN IS 55???!! SHE AGED SO WELL

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got the reference, I didnt know she was a blaver!!!

[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not a trace of doubt in my mind.

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait whasst is this magic? Bev/Picard is le canon? My homies from 1999 and fanfiction. net, aaasssseembleeee That's like finding out J/C is now retroactively made canon, my head is gonna explode

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watch Picard, specifically season 3.

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WELL NOW I WILL. shit was this common knowledge!?

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering it's kind of the whole plot of Picard season 3, then yeah, it's common knowledge.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Fuck yeah, go watch Picard S3.

It was a fun ride.

You don't really need to watch the other two seasons first if you don't want to; the only thing you won't have is the backstory on why the hell Picard knows Seven and who Seven's kinda girlfriend is.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Season 3 of Picard was about that.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, do we know when he was conceived?

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I'm mystified too.