Of course it did. They want nothing to do with ethical thoughts
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
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It's too bad we can't dig up any dirt on the liberal justices so that this could be a bi-partisan bill. Either the liberal justices are excellent at hiding their corruption or it's just the conservative judges who are taking these bribes. My money is on the latter.
The GOP tried to "both sides" by pointing out the liberal justices took small, nomial fees and hotel stays when giving speeches to law students at colleges. Somehow it didnt line up to "a taking expensive vacation's with a billionaire donor in your party on their private jets when they have cases before the court (alito)" or "taking expensives vacations with a gop billionaree that also bought your moms home and has let her live in it rent free for decades (thomas)" or " your wife making millions from "consulting" at GOP think tanks (thomas/roberts)."
So they shifted to "whatever. Its cool when our guys do it."
Comparisons need not be fair. They just need to get it out there and it works. I don't know how many times I've been discussing politics IRL when someone says, "Yeah, but the liberals do it to! Look at this!"
My favorite:
"Are you seriously conflating protests over racial discrimination with a takeover of our nation's Capital in an attempt to overthrow the government?!"
"They're the same."
The most serious thing I heard of was Sotomayor's staff intimating to universities bringing the Justice in to speak hadn't purchased enough copies of her book.
Can't wait for the calls of "But her books!"
Democrats conceded the legislation could not pass the current Senate, where it would need 60 votes, and has no prospects in the Republican-controlled House. But they said the debate would focus attention on ethics issues on the Supreme Court and could build momentum for future action by Congress.
Republicans oppose it because that what they do. Chuck could say that it was sunny outside and Lindsay would make a show of bring an umbrella just out of spite.
In an environment like this, when very little can actually get done, sometimes activity like this is done to set the stage for the next thing. Democrats will campaign on this to sell voters on the idea that the Supreme Court is out of touch and unaccountable, and Republicans are standing in the way of changes. And if the Democrats win majorities in both houses in this election, I fully expect them to nuke the filibuster to pack the court.
My preferred method would be to slam in expansion to 13 on Day 1, effective in a years' time. And then after signing it, Biden can go to Republicans and say "You have a choice: you can work with us to reform the court via amendment: institute ethics requirements, term limits, privledged status for appointments in the Senate, and efforts to make the Court less of a political football and more accountable. Or, you can leave things as they are, I will appoint 4 young judges to lifetime appointments and you can gamble on having both the Presidency and Senate control to appoint any more."
Because you know that if the Presidency and Senate are controlled by different parties from now on, the Senate Leader will invoke the "McConnell Rule" to ignore the appointment entirely. In fact, this can be used as a justification to go to 13, because Democrats can argue that the Court will often have vacancies, because the Senate Majority leader has a permanent veto on filling the seat.
Democrats won't even talk 13, they don't have the gumption. "Oh, but the optics!" I don't give a damn about optics anymore. One side is fighting as low down as they can go, while the other is like, "Let's work together and not offend anyone."
Look, I loved Obama, but this high-road crap has to end.
Legislators should have to wear NASCAR-style suits with patches from their sponsors on them.
They all opposed this because it makes it harder for their donors to sway the court, and their donors obviously wouldn't appreciate that.
Cool
Now do the same with Congress and I bet half of them would resign, both democrats and republicans are human garbage when it comes to "ethics"
I'm honestly surprised that people are so partisan, instead of saying "fuck them all, we want change!"
It's 2023 and people are rooting their entire identity based on their political party. It's madness.
It's not controversial. If ethics rules are applied to one branch of government, then eventually all branches of government will have to follow the same rules. That's what they're afraid of, the domino effect. It just sucks that we even need these rules to begin with.
Thank you. Yeah I’m really not understanding why or rather other than obstruction, why the GOP opposes this.
So, you’re literally saying, corruption is fine… or is it only your corruption…
It is hypocrisy I cannot stand
Paywall article. Fake news.