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[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Um, no. The entire system is broken; the GOP is just the natural result and most obvious symptom of that breakage.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that land gets more importance than people in our system is a big part of why Republicans have as much power as they have. We need to at least fully industrialize our system so that having a ton of land in an empty state doesn't give you the right to dictate national policy.

Sadly, this will require a Constitutional Convention, which will under our current Constitution gives even more power to these states.

Interestingly the article governing Constitutional Conventions is under Article 5. I really hope we don't have two of those at once. Things will get very confusing.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservative extremists are currently pushing for a Constitutional Convention, because they've gerrymandered enough/almost enough (depending on your particular opinion on "enough" in this radical scenario) state governments to allow them to recraft the Constitution as they'd prefer it to be.

This would be an unmitigated disaster.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think that might actually ignite a civil war. No way the masses put up with that shit.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Given all the corruption a constitutional convention would be the final nail the coffin.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it's the idiot fucking assholes who vote for them.. there is no systemic cure for them..

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Deprogramming them is going to be a decades-long process, and it can only begin when we break the far-right's media machine. Cable news and political talk radio is the cancer that is killing this country, and cutting it out is a tall order. But it must be done; it's going to take a long time to rehabilitate those who have been consuming the brain poison for 30+ years.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

let's go ahead and start with some good old fashioned smacks upside the head and see what good we do, before we do much prognostication

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It's so much worse than that.

In the entire history of the world, no one has EVER been able to deprogram a fascist cult of this size.

In all of human history, across all times and cultures, the only way these people have ever been defeated was through bloody conflict.

Remember, as much as you despise them bigotry, cruelty to immigrants and minorities, willful ignorance, taking away women's rights, keeping us from affordable healthcare, siding with our enemies, etc,etc ... They hate you JUST AS MUCH for entirely fictional grievances. They LITERALLY BELIEVE that Democrats are baby-killing pedophiles. They LITERALLY BELIEVE that the deep state is a real thing, and that it's acting against them.

The Q-ANON insanity is TRUTH to a huge portion of these absolute morons.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally I wouldn't let the systematic flaws in our government system off the hook for enabling things like this to happen, having no formal way for citizens to recall federal representatives, and allowing justice to crawl so slowly it may not stop someone who committed crimes around and about the election in time from wining the next election and setting up a sham trial or impeachment that clears him and prevents him from being charged with that crime under double jeopardy laws ever again like they just did with Ken Paxton. A healthy system doesn't ever get to where we are and there's no getting around that it's part of the problem. It really seems like the laws of this country are not enough to save it.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope. It's money. Republicans are just a symptom.

Get rid of Citizens United and watch how things change.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Citizens united is also a symptom though, frankly I think we're at the point where we either need a whole slew of constitutional ammendments, or a whole new one altogether, but I don't see how either of those options is happening any time soon

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Getting rid of Citizens United would be a great first step but things were going downhill way before that. CU was just gas (continually) poured on an already burning dumpster.

But you’re right that money (and the corruption/influence it buys) is the root of all our political problems.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

In related news: duh.

Thing is they don’t see themselves as broken. They see themselves as who they want to be - future dictators of America.

[–] willis936@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Everyone here claiming to have the answer are identifying things that aren't true in other places in the world that have the same problem: right wing extremist populism.