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[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Love thy neighbor, unless they're gay, black, immigrant or they think different from you, then harass then and make false allegations and boycott every woke media" - somewhere in the Bible.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

also remember how jesus helped and fed poor people? well that's commie bullshit, we don't do that here

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think that was in Shitforbrains 24:7 or was it Propaganda 69:420?

Either was totes there, Jesus was big on hating thy neighbor.

[–] SighBapanada@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Christianity and capitalism aren't compatible but no one is ready to have that conversation

[–] hauntology@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalism absorbed Christianity because it was dominant at the time it came into being. What Christ said isn't important, what's important is that Christianity could provide structures capitalism could latch onto that enabled it to grow and consume everything in its path. If Christ and capitalism are at odds capitalism always wins.

So yes they are incompatible, but at the same time they aren't. Christianity is exactly what capitalism wants it to be.

[–] glockenspiel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If Christ and capitalism are at odds capitalism always wins.

Excellent statement. A good example of this happening is with usury/charging interest. The churches forbade it in most forms for a very long time,only permitting it on a wide scale in the 16th century. Coincidentally, just so happens to be when capitalism was rising. Totally a coincidence I'm sure.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't there a story in the Bible where Jesus kicks the merchants out of a church and punches them?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

He flipped over tables and straight up whipped the merchants and money changers calling them thieves.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Jesus is irrelevant to ------ianity.

Leviticus & Romans, that's all you need.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's situational. Parts are relevant when they need to be and irrelevant when they need to be. It's convenient like that.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Jesus and the teachings of christianity in any of its forms are irrelevant to a functional modern society. Anyone who uses any parts of the bible beyond a few cherry-picked, out of context, touchy-feely bits as a foundation for their morality is almost certain to be a worse person for it.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christianity is the perfect religion for capitalists. They can do all the harm they want while they’re alive and all they have to do is ask for forgiveness to go to heaven.

I'd argue against that. Your average North American christian church, on the other hand, has been molded to support this kind of attitude.

If any of the stories are true*, it's the active, practicing red-letter Christians who will get into heaven. Everyone else (see: the majority of church goers) get to burn with the rest of us. Remind followers of the idol of the church of this often, at every opportunity.

*I personally don't believe they are, but still find value in Christian thought that's actually wrestled with (and the people that do so) rather than just parroting the agendas and corruptions of others.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They want you to go to church but not support policies that Jesus would support.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ"

~Mahatma Gandhi

[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What? He's a peaceful man. He just doesn't take kindly to unhandled overflows.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These churches sure do love some supply side Jesus.

Why care about the alien within your gates, especially if they got there illegally? Care only about yourself. God helps those who help themselves. That other weird Jesus who says to love everyone and give everything you have to the poor is an icky, nasty socialist groomer.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

If you want to fun activity, go ask one of these lunatics what's bad about socialism. They usually describe communism. They don't even know what they hate.

If Jesus come to US today, he will likely be vindicated as a false god again.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think it's more that Christians are mad that they would be helping others who don't share their same belief system.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is funny because that's exactly what the Bible tells them not to do

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume that Christians actually read the Bible.

[–] JonVonBasslake@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen an unsourced claim / quote that reading the bible is the leading factor for atheism.

[–] corm@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi it's me, a guy who was a never-doubting die hard christian until about 14 years old when I sat down and intended to read the bible cover to cover.

I made it through every single word (and every John begat Bruce etc ect) until leviticus.

I had always been raised as a bible literalist, that every single word of the bible was either true or a "metaphor". Well, I'm dumb but not an idiot. And it's impossible for a sane person to read the whole old testament and come out thinking it's the same author as the new testiment.

Imo, christians are primarily people who haven't read the bible yet.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

"He's not hurting the right people"

[–] theragu40@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

I've been in and around Christian communities my whole life. There is truth to what you say - someone being Christian increases the likelihood that other Christians would be willing to help them.

But by and large the prevailing attitude is even more disappointing and unchristlike. People are simply selfish and only want to serve themselves, keeping every penny they have earned regardless of those in need around them.

The rich don't get rich by giving it away, and this is well known amongst the rich themselves. Some may even give on a personal level, giving them a visual alibi for using their resources politically to actively oppose legislation and policy that benefits those less fortunate. To me this is even more evil.

[–] Lesrid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Help the homeless? Are you insane?? There's so many of them!

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

No, no, if you help the homeless, they won't help themselves and will instead get a free ride, and that'll just encourage more people to become homeless. That's real conservative logic right there.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had this exact same epiphany after having arguments with my parents about politics... Like, "You made me this way!"

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's very sad. I'm fortunate that it was the opposite for me. Born into a hyper-conservative Catholic family, then when 3 out of 4 of their children wound up LGBTQ, they realized that God might have been telling them something. They're extremely and refreshingly Christ-like, and total allies. They treat my same-sex fiancé as their full-blown in-law.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One would think the choice would be obvious: Either accept your children for who they are, or accept some right-wing bullcrap and only get to talk with the one kid you didn't shun from your life.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As a parent it is truly unthinkable how anyone could disown their children over this kind of thing. I literally cannot fathom doing that to the people I love the most in this world.

[–] oldlamps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

That's good, but such a low bar we give them

[–] FluffyToaster621@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

This one hits worryingly close to home

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

This was like when equality was drilled into me then I punched my friend because she was strangling me.

Apparently I wasn't meant to do that. But I need to treat boys and girls the same.

That was a big awakening.

[–] broguy89@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Love is the sister to hate. It's very easy to convert one to the other. "Love" your enemies. Love is the Christian codeword for hate. God "loves" you with the intensity of 1000 suns. Climate change is god's love.

Being anti-socialism is caring about people.