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Possibly a dumb question, but is there, or could one of the extra smart people here build, a federated marketplace to allow for direct buying and selling without the middle-man enshittification of ebay, reverb, and the like?

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[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh thank god, an actual question. I was going crazy trying to figure out what that thumbnail-sized picture was supposed to be! 😃

Honestly anybody can throw together a marketplace or auction site. That part is pretty easy. The problem comes when you start trying to deal with the money. Money attracts the hackers, and your security better be absolutely air-tight. There will always be transactional fees for handling the money which needs to be passed on so that alone means you can't run the site for free.

After that comes the problem of scale. The bigger your site gets, the more people you need to hire to manage all the complaints. Who decides if it was the customer or the seller that got screwed in a deal? That comes down to a judgement call, meaning you need some good training for your employees. And of course all this also requires fees to be passed along to someone.

Unfortunately if you want a successful marketplace you can't just rely on the honesty of the buyers and sellers. It takes a constant effort, good customer service, and a way to provide that cheaper than ebay so you can attract more people to the site. Several have tried and failed to do this already, and they had a lot more money than we do.

[–] th_in_gs@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eBay ran for a long time with a ‘buyer beware’ philosophy, requiring you to pay the seller directly, and leaving feedback being the only recourse. The de-facto payment became PayPal, but I remember mailing checks back in the day!

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Wow I'm glad I missed out on that... Although there was certainly a period where if you were a seller you literally could not trust paypal not to just freeze (and take) your entire account if you had more than about $2000. I think that's what started ebay's whole policy of being a black hole where there was literally no way you could contact them to dispute anything. I'm really not sure if that has gotten any better, but there were entire websites dedicated to discussing how much money paypal had robbed them of with no reason ever given.

[–] humanetech@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Have a look at #flohmarkt, federated decentral classified ad software using #activitypub: https://codeberg.org/grindhold/flohmarkt By @grindhold@chaos.social

[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I hope someone works on this It would be a nice project to add to the Fediverse I looked around last year and only found some promising projects that were all dead Currently, I'm looking at Thirty Bees ( https://docs.thirtybees.com )