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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Good, let's do it. I'm tired of our tax money keeping shitty car companies floating.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

And no competition. I'm pretty sure that they can shave some of the price off from that massive jump that came with COVID due to [checks list] "supply chain issues" and yet never went back down after...

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 32 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Capitalism is all about competition unless it's not.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 10 points 7 hours ago

Capitalism isn't about anything other than keeping the ruling class rich and in power. How it chooses to do that has varied throughout time. During the 20th Century the lie was that "American Style" capitalism was fair because the capitalists would promote Laissez-faire style economics ("Free Trade") out of their mouths, while actually building monopolies.

With the rise of Trump-style 'conservatives' Republicans have adopted a new strategy, Mercantilism. Mercantilism doesn't even pretend to be fair or free. The word 'Competition' doesn't even appear anywhere in that article because competition is bad for Capitalists and they see no reason to continue to lie about that. They actively oppose free trade.

Even if 'Capitalists' possessed the ability to feel shame for being hypocrites (which they certainly do not), calling them out for not following along with the principles of 'the free market' does no good since they have abandoned advocating for that a while ago.

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[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Tariffs be damned, I will not buy an American brand car. They've been mediocre my whole life and it's always been easier to source parts for Hondas and Toyotas. I'm not sure how repairable any EV is, but I doubt American brands will top the charts of value in repairability in my lifetime

[–] kfox@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Got a subaru as my first non-american car. The old CVT torque converter is wearing out after 120k miles, but she survived being lightly t-boned with just a door repair

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Manual swap time

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how repairable EVs are either, since my 2013 Leaf never needed repairs in 12 years. Just tires and wiper blades.

[–] ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah that's a good point in a sense. Mechanically I think they're a lot less repairable (or at least a lot less at home repairable), but from the angle of needing repairs, they also need less repairs because most of what tends to fail on ICE vehicles is all the mechanical stuff attached to the engine. Even on my hybrid I repair a ton less and my mechanic said that because all the accessories are electronic since they can't be belt/chain driven because the engine is off half the time that they're ultimately more reliable in the end - it's the mechanical aspects of them that fail on ICE vehicles.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

After 25 years of other brands I finally went Honda and I can't believe how happy I am with it. I never have problems.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

Over the years I think Honda and Toyota are the two brands I most commonly see an old guy managing to keep running well for 30+ years and hyper focused on wanting to break 500k miles or dreaming of hitting 1 million miles someday

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

American made car? Ya, I own a Toyota Sienna. And ya, I don't think I'd buy an American brand again.

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

How do you like it? It's on my short list for my next car.

[–] ExploitedAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I have a 20+ year old 2004 rx330 its basically a sienna with a smaller shell (sienna highlander and the v6 camry all share the same subframe and engine/ powertrain components with some exceptions its the same platform) its great, i have 223,000 miles on it and it needs some work but I’m poor so i do it all myself

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Overall, love it. We had a hybrid RAV 4 and wanted to move to a larger vehicle. When we discovered that Toyota was releasing a hybrid Sienna for 2021, we jumped at it. We get ~35mpg on average. And we've put just a bit over 55k miles on it since we got it. Maintenance has mostly been routine, though we did have an odd issue with one of the sliding doors filling up with water. According to the tech at the service center, there is a drain which was clogged and needed to be cleared. This was likely exacerbated by the fact that it's parked outside, in a wooded area. So, it sees a lot of leaf litter. And that is one down side, the back hatch can accumulate leaves and crap in the space between the top of the door and the body of the vehicle. Annoying, but you just have to clean it out on the regular. The adjustment rails for the rear seats are also hard to clean, if anything gets in them. So, that can be annoying.

As for performance, it moves well enough. It's a mini-van, so you're not going to beat a small car off the line, but you do get up to speed at a good clip. The turning radius is surprisingly narrow for such a large vehicle. At speed, the vehicle feels stable and handles ok. I'll also say that the adaptive cruise control is insanely addictive. I've been driving in traffic this week and I can go a long time without touching the pedals. I'd also recommend getting to the trim level where you get the backup camera with the false overview of the vehicle, makes parking super simple.

We mostly use it for routine tasks like getting groceries or taking the kids places. We also go camping regularly and we can pack all our stuff into the back and put the kayaks on top. Its not a vehicle I'd take off road on anything challenging, but it handles unpaved roads ok.

So ya, we've been happy with it and I'd give it a recommendation.

[–] violetring@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Sienna's are great! I've owned 4 of them (because I tend to total cars), and been happy with all of them. Gets decent mileage for a van, and they hold value better than just about any other mini van. Never felt safer when ramming into the back of a semi while going 70mph! The van was totaled, but me and the kids were perfectly fine.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But it would also help american people. Which is more important, I wonder.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 hours ago

Stop giving them more reasons not to allow it

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 124 points 19 hours ago (24 children)

Oh no! The type of capitalism where we have to compete!

Make it go away, Daddy Trump!

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Sadly, I think it was Biden that put a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs. Fuck Trump, but come on, Biden, don't do this shit for them. I really like that new Xiaomi YU7.

[–] III@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is not so simple. Blocking BYD has a lot to do with protecting American manufacturing jobs. That's not to say Biden's tariff was the right answer. But it is a more complicated problem to solve than it appears from the perspective of a single car buyer.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 7 hours ago

Sucks to suck, our car companies suck and they absolutely should loose and be forced to fire people if they can't compete. Give me my cheap and decent Chinese cars please. I live in a capitalist country so lets act like it instead of being fucking pussys

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[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 72 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Good. Fuckem. They make shitty, oversized trucks that are a danger to pedestrians and people who drive reasonably sized cars anyway.

[–] Unrelated@feddit.nl 4 points 12 hours ago

The Chinese too know how to make unnecessary large cars, unfortunately.

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