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I want to ask about artificial intelligence (AI) (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago) by SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

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For some reason what is happening with AI and automation is very reminiscent of the horrors that happened during the industrial revolution, history repeats itself doesn't it? Nya...

changes: i mean there are similarities with the loss of professions not everything matches what is happening now but some points are worrying. Especially given the likely collapse in the future, I think it may well be that most people will not have much choice, such as working for a small salary, and making money through creativity will be almost impossible and few will be able to afford such a luxury, given that the market will be under the complete control of corporations and AI.

I just know that those in power, once they see that they can do whatever they want, they will do it, and they won't care whether you agree with it or not. They will crush you like an ant... :3

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Well, as expected, we live under capitalism, and no one wants to miss out on opportunities to get even more money and power. And yet it's so funny as if AI won't learn to do everything itself and people won't end up on the street again... In any case, the article is not bad.

[+] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You say "horrors" like the industrial revolution didn't improve quality of life for almost every human on the planet.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you read history in more detail you'll find that that's not quite true. The industrial revolution only improved the quality of life for people after the rich and powerful made sure to enclose the commons and invade countries all over the world making living conditions for people worse in the process. Hunters and gatherers had more leisure time than the industrial worker, even medieval peasants had more leisure time than the industrial worker, living conditions got worse when people were forced into cities (once again, by stealing communal land that made it possible that villages were pretty much self sufficient).

Better living conditions nowadays are only possible because the environment is being destroyed at a record rate, and are declining again as we speak, with pollution making life in those glorious industrial cities worse every day.

History is written by the winners so you have to read between the lines to figure out how much of this supposed better life for all is actually propaganda.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"more leisure time"

That's not the only metric you should be looking at. In fact it's a pretty terrible metric.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

How is leisure time terrible? And it wasn't the only thing I was looking at. Clean air, clean water, sustainable production, green spaces, quality over quantity of products, sustainable production... But then I feel like you don't want to actually engage. Go on and continue "industrial revolution good, low tech past bad" - I can't help you here.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they mean this kinda stuff:

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not about whether it's improved or not, it's about who's hurt by it, i think you need to compare it more deeply with reality. For example, losing a job and the alternative is no better, even worse.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You are glossing over the fact that "who's hurt by it" ignores the future potential benefits.

Not having an industrial revolution would have hurt a lot of people too, condemning millions or billions to the limited quality of life that existed before it. No modern medicine, no modern amenities, just 90% of the population subsistence farming.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Okay, you can read the post again, I tried to explain myself in more detail.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think the unethical advocation of human suffering as means to justify a tenuous benefit is going to fly here, you're mistaken. That is what you're saying, yes?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The industrial revolution only led to a Tenuous benefit... lol.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sir, this isnt a Wendys, its an anti AI community.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

When hating becomes a team sport, it's a serious problem. There are benefits and negatives to this technology, like with most things, and anyone who can't recognize that is a complete moron.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Of course, there are advantages, but the disadvantage is that this technology is quite dangerous, considering that it was created to control the population and collect data from correspondence, as a result, a document is obtained about each person, and such that it is possible to predict what a person will say and why he will do it. In any case, for some it will be useful, and for others it will be a threat.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So despite the morally, socially, physiologically and environmentally destructive properties surrounding generative AI, and the levers of power it grants to the fascist regimes on the rise, those advocating for halting this tech until these very real human concerns are addressed are total morons? We're just fearmongering?

With all due respect, you can go fuck yourself.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The same things were/are said about the internet itself, and here you are typing into a webpage.

You aren't just fearmongering, but you are fearmongering.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Dude, calm down, I understand that some people have a hard time accepting opinions different from their own but there is no need to start a fight, we are not on 4chan. :3