Gaming

That there is no guarantee that I will always have access to a game I like is really what kills it for me as a user. Like, I’m basically paying them the equivalent of the cost of a game every 3 months, but I could loose access to a game I like at any time because it’s no longer on game pass, so I’d be better off just buying games I like outright with that money every three months.

I’d rather my money go directly to studios making things I like, rather than fractionalized among who ever Microsoft decides deserves to make games.

Everything being said on both sides in those screenshots doesn't really mean much to me without data to show it's actually the case.

My personal feeling is that I don't care to own most games in the first place and would be happy getting them all from the library the same way I do with books. Without Gamepass I wouldn't have played things like Payday 3 or Grounded in the first place because I won't purchase them. The alternative for me is piracy.

You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy

That is part of the reason why i have never purchased it. Financially, selling Gamepass does not make sense, as the prices does not justify the buy-in to get a substantial amount of Games onto it, making it worthwhile. For Microsoft it only makes Sense, when they see additional Profitpoints Like the closed Market on it and Killing competition. Once that is done, the quality and amount of Games going to Gamepass will certainly worsen.

And we do Not need to forget that Microsoft is a Data Company. So by requiring the Gamepass service be installed onto your machine, they certainly get a load of Data about you from it. Which neither benefits the Game developers nor the consumers.

As for the Points of "Low barrier to entry, Games trying Out Games" - duh, thats what Demos are for

The spin of it being positive for indie is absurd. Indie thrives on PC, not Xbox.

I think from the game development side there are pros and cons. There are games that struggle to demand a high enough sticker price that do better under a subscription service.

The problem is that, much like subscriptions elsewhere, these are deliberately underpriced and used as a loss leader to sink competitors and the direct purchase market, so they aren't priced reasonably and it's unclear what the money flow towards creators is supposed to be.

And it'd be one thing if the money was flowing at all, but in the current industry, with Microsoft shedding people left and right while holding a ridiculous amount of IP, both active and inactive... well, it's not a great look for the industry as a whole to be dumping content below cost for the sake of a speculative move. And to make matters worse, I don't think that many people know just exactly how much of a money pit Game Pass is.

And that's before the more fundamental issues with ownership and preservation. Which I have strong feelings about, it's just that they happen to be so strong that I'm typically the one to remind people you don't own your Steam games, either. Would certainly like a fix for that, too.

Hell yeah, he’s 1000% right