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The NYPD is skulking through the L train demanding IDs from Black and Latino men, again with zero justified cause or explanation as to why.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Bad policing is bad for good cops.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Well good thing there are no good cops πŸ…°οΈΒ©οΈπŸ†Ž

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah woukd suck for them if there were. I bet they woukd stop being cops immediately.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

They've had over 100 years yo fix the system from the inside. If good cops ever existed, what have they done to stop shit like this from happening?

Fuck them all. There are no good cops when savages like these ones are allowed to do what they do. Every last one of them may as well be kindling for the fires of the revolution that's coming.

Yeah thats what im saying. A good cop is someone who realizes on the first day 'oh. Oh that training makes a lot more sense now. I need every shower.' And quits. Or dies in a training accident pretty quick.

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good cops? You mean the ones that stand and watch the bad cops?

The good cop that get beaten by fellow officers: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41445902

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Sigh. The responses you got really dishearten me. We really are moving fast to a binary world where everything is good or bad and any opportunity for nuance is thrown out the window.

You are of course 100% correct.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Hard disagree. My wife was stopped due to expired registration on our car - My fault, long story. The cop gave her a fix it ticket. Nothing else happened. They're a good cop, or at least they were in that moment.

You know what would have happened if they were a bad cop in that moment? She would have been deported for having brown skin.

Good cops don't make headlines, but they exist, and I'm grateful for the good ones we've encountered.

That being said, bad cops can fuck right off.

[–] FlockAdmiralEmu@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My dude, that cop did the bare minimum of their job. I don't believe that should be your definition of 'good'.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bare minimum would have been not pulling her over in the first place, or giving a warning. I've encountered cops in the past that ticketed me for things that I found out later I should not have been ticketed for, and they were dicks while they did it.

This wasn't the bare minimum, and they didn't abuse their power. Definitely wasn't a "bad cop".

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Definitely wasn’t a β€œbad cop”.

But by virtue of being a cop, was a bastard.

[–] wulrus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Bad cops, even the worst of the worst, do a normal job 99% of the time. It's the other 1 % of their actions that have such a negative impact.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

"Vhere are your papers??"

[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ACAB. They’ll never change if our only resistance is peaceful. No significant swing in power between a people and its government has occurred absent of violence.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Where are all the posters who are trying to assuage their guilt for their own inaction by telling you why you're wrong and defensively calling you a keyboard warrior? Is this even Lemmy?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

Not exactly a new thing.

"Resonable Suspicion" is a lower threshold than "Probable Cause".

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reasonable suspicion of a crime. You need to say the whole thing.

The number of cops that thinks "I've got reasonable suspicion of you being suspicious." Has always been too goddamn high. You need reasonable suspicion OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Being suspicious isn't a crime. Being black or Latino in a subway station isn't a crime. Even stop and identify laws need to be based in reasonable suspicion of a crime because the 4th amendment demands it.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That is why cops have Terry Stops that allow them to fill in the reason as whatever and the judge always sides with the cops

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

The times become dangerous when the state loses it’s monopoly on violence

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