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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 24 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Good, an influencer in the millions of followers is bringing visibility to FOSS and independent technology.

Bad, he said the n word once and joked about jews when he was in his early 20's.

Devil's Advocate: If pewdiepie was really a nazi, his channel wouldn't be about gaming and tech, it would be two spaces away from Joe Rogan in your podcast app. The dude is harmless.

You guys don't really get it. Back then, people blurted out edgelord shit whether they meant it or even understood it just for a meme or repetition or even quell nervousness on a livestream. God forbid any of you hear recordings from Xbox Live circa 2010.

All this "is he still a fascist talk" speaks volumes. He never was.

I said edgy shit and the n-word online when I was a teen, am I a fascist? Nope, voted blue since Obama and my cousins are hispanic and well loved. Kids gonna kid, adults grow up, realize wtf they were doing was idiotic and move on.

If you're witchhunting fascists and you land on pewdiepie, start back at the top of your list. Your fascometer's sensitivity is too high.

[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 hours ago

This thread is killing me. I'm really tired of how open-source people and gamers are so quick to forgive and move on, all under the veil of we don't care about politics. Well, how fucking lucky for you then! What, do you think the people who care are having autistic hyper-fixations on politics? Is that it? Like, I don't have less depressing hyper-fixations to have, maybe? Well, I'm glad to see that it's all working out great for you! Now, if you could stop looking at yourself for a minute, that would be great!

Fuck. Bigots.

We should not allow them in our spaces like that. We should not welcome them with open arms because they have lots of subscribers and it gives us exposure! We have enough far-right dipshit in our communities as is.

Oooh, but what about redemption?! What about rehabilitation?!

Listen people, I grew up in a far-right home. I was a far-right dipshit for a long time because of that. But the difference is, I haven't been called out for paying some guys to write some heinous antisemitism on a sign, after I've been called out for dog whistling to Nazis in an apology, after I've been called out for shouting out a Nazi in a video about channels, my name wasn't dropped live by a Nazi shooter, and I certainly didn't invite fucking Ben Shapiro on my program to review memes to my millions and millions of followers!

Come on! We're not talking about a guy who said something cringe on Twitter 12 years ago here. It's not about believing that we're perfect and being self-centered, as I have read in this thread. It's about having some fucking standards. I am forgiving. I know that people can change. But there are fucking limits as to what I'm willing to accept.

This is so tiring.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 40 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I love his new path in content. Seems like he grew up to be a positive influence in the ethical tech regard.

[–] redditor_chatter44@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I still remember his arch linux vid he did

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Impossible! Nobody can remember something that happened a few weeks ago!

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[–] Noerknhar@feddit.org 77 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Funny how the comments in this thread went from "haha he's degoogling on YouTube?" to "do you believe in rehabilitation?" - "HE'S A NAZI!!!".

It truly feels like back in the good old Reddit days. You either get popcorn or your pitchfork. There's nothing in-between.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 points 13 hours ago

That's human nature. People are complicated, and everyone has negative and positive aspects to them (granted some have mostly negative or mostly positive traits). It's a lot easier to have a black and white opinion on people, either you really like someone or you really don't like someone. When dealing with thousands of famous people that you don't know, simplifying your opinion on them to a black and white opinion is a shortcut we take to keep from getting overwhelmed.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 50 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

he brought it on himself by accidentally naziing several times, even while he ostensibly apologized after he got called out for it.

he has had a hand in normalizing this shit we're in today and people are right to be angry at him. especially since his alleged rehabilitation has been as quiet as his nazi winks and nods were loud.

i do believe in rehabilitation, but i think for someone his size you can't just do it quietly. you have to be against it and try to right your wrongs. that's what hunter avallone did for example, and he's significantly smaller than pewdiepie.

pewdiepie's damage was much more consequential and he has a responsibility to do more than not casually naziing anymore.

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What did this "quiet rehabilitation" even entail? Did he actually take responsibility for the dogwhistles?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

don't even know honestly; just responding to people's claims that he's changed.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That's exactly it. Either you join the pitchfork faction or you stay out of their way. To me the funny thing is the delusion that typing angry comments into a phone makes people social activists.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

maybe this might revive Pewdiepie grow again???

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 102 points 1 day ago (14 children)

some people in here are apparently perfect and don't believe others can grow and learn from their mistakes. what a childish self-centered perspective.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Here's the problem with public figures in particular: they have an extrinsic motivation to make others believe they've changed. You can't actually know if they're doing it for the money or because they actually believe it.

The same issue goes for doing good too. Do people donate to charity because they want to or because they want people to see them? Is it still good if it's the latter? Is there a difference functionally?

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 2 points 47 minutes ago

100% agree, but this logic applies to everyone, not just public figures.

they [public figures] have an extrinsic motivation to make others believe they've changed.

Replace public figures with people and its just as accurate. Nobody wants to be the bad guy, even demon-spawn incarnate, Stephen Miller tries to put everything in a positive light "detaining violent illegals" vs "breaking innocent families apart and sending them to concentration camps".

Judge people based on their actions, not their words.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago

I'm willing to believe he might have learned from his mistakes, but he was 27 when he did the most egregious things. More than old enough to know better. The older you are when you do stupid shit, the harder it will be for people to forgive you.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Yeah no... It's very easy to not behave like a fucking Nazi.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 3 points 54 minutes ago

You're exposing your privilege and lack of understanding other perspectives.

Not everyone grew up knowing the impact words or phrases have on marginalized communities. I reflect on the day I learned women think twice about going for a runs at night. Growing up a white-passing guy in a relatively safe neighborhood, the possibility of getting raped was a foreign concept, but a sad reality for many women. In that same vein, you lack the humility to consider people like me, who grow up in an environment where slurs were common and "just a joke".

I've educated myself, learned from my past, reflected on how my actions may have impacted others at the time and walked away from ignorance. I am not who I used to be, and we must allow people to grow, or would you prefer to see no change?

If you grew up perfect, you should feel blessed that you've had the opportunity. Not everyone gets that.

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