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"I've been warned not to talk about it," the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.

"I'll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding."

The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.

At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 65 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Yea... porn in illegal in China, erotic stories is just "word-porn" basically, this is nothing new.

This is what conservatism does. Same in China, same in the Deep South of the US (the only reason why porn is still legal-ish in the south is because of the first amendment, but the constitution is being eroded so that might not last long)

Conservatism is a disease that many countries still have. Take a look at this map:

Porn being legal is mostly only a thing in the "western world".

Even if China has a liberal democracy like in the west, people would still elect conservatives. See democratic countries like: India, South Korea, Ukraine, Phillippines, Malaysia, they all made porn illegal despite being democratic.

I'm cisgender and probably straight (or asexual not sure tbh), but if I was trans or gay, my parents would've disowned me for being "mentally ill" and gave me zero inheritance. I mean, even currently with depression, my parents are already thinking about leaving me out of the will for being a "useless eater", imagine if I was LGBT. For context, parents are from Mainland, PRC, currently we're in the US, they are conservstives that just thinks everyone who's is depressed is either "faking it" or crazy psychopaths and/or "useless eaters". I hate my life.

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah India is a striking example of a place where porn really NEEDS to be legal. Way too many horny single men there.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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Why am I reminded of one old comic? It went like this:

(Scientists on an Antarctic base)
Scientist 1: (Finishes talking about something normal)
Scientist 2: (Disheveled and visibly unhinged) "Well none of that shit matters. Do you know what happened to my stack of Playboy magazines?"
Scientist 1: (Now also suddenly disheveled and visibly unhinged, whips out a knife) "They're mine now!"
Scientist 2: (Also whips out a knife) "Oh yeah?"
Scientist 1: "Yeah! What are you gonna do about it?"
(Altercation ensues)

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (7 children)

You know this is bad when even Hexbear isn't defending it. https://hexbear.net/post/5403841

LGBT rights are human rights, everywhere.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's upsetting how western voices wouldn't matter in this discourse but I hope progressives in china will be able to campaign against this and make porn legal and commercially available or atleast present under a government organisation

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 153 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Ah yes, this is the democracy some people talk about

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Democracies can also ban porn. See: South Korea, India, Ukraine, Malaysia, Singapore, Mongolia, etc...

Its a conservatism issue.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago

You can add about a third of the USA at this post as well.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarians gonna authoritarian regardless of economic model.

It’s funny though, because despite some leftover socialist aesthetic its hard to get more capitalist. I mean it’s pretty obvious state capitalism. You can’t have billionaires 80 years into your “socialist project”.

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[–] oh_@lemmy.world 135 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This will eventually be the U.S. if we don’t stop the erosion. Right now they are going after trans, brown people. They will turn attention after to others.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 91 points 3 days ago (63 children)

But .ml communities promise meChina has mote free speech than the West! How is this possible?

/s

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Clearly, the BBC made it all up. Because it contradicts them. /s

Literally the newest top-level comment right now.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

and here's why the BBC is blocked in Vietnam

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These authors are being accused of breaking China's pornography law for "producing and distributing obscene material". Writers who earn a profit could be jailed for more than 10 years.

The law targets "explicit descriptions of gay sex or other sexual perversions".

Jesus I thought there might have been some bullshit pretense, but apparently it's just straight-up illegal there.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"The Chinese government wants to promote traditional family values and liking danmei novels is seen as a factor in making women less willing to have children," Dr Ge explains.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Man, it's wild to see them go from one-child to this in a single generation.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

Overcorrection in policy is not uncommon in authoritarian regimes. I'd imagine because policy carries the threat of imprisonment, not just guidance.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

The machine needs meat

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I generally want to have sex with my husband after reading erotica. You know, because it’s arousing. How did this not occur to them?

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 days ago

How many straight men do you know who have a sound grasp on women’s sexuality?

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As much as I like to stan China for how they treat their billionaires and corporations, this is wrong. Sex work, in all its forms, is a valid, lucrative, and old line of work across the world. China is one of the most developed nations on Earth. They should also be the most progressive when it comes to this. Smh

it's valid to support some policies in some places without it making you a fervant supporter of everything that state does.

like I love how china actually invests in infrastructure, including housing and public transit and walkable cities.

I dont like what they do in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

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[–] boblemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The background of the matter transcends conflicts over gender concepts. In recent years, many local governments have been unable to cover their expenses, resulting in a phenomenon known as "distant sea fishing" (远洋捕捞), which refers to "profit-driven law enforcement," aimed at plundering money from other places. These female writers are just a tiny fraction of the victims. There are also well-known entrepreneurs who have lost their lives due to such extortion.

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[–] Burnoutdv@feddit.org 37 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I know nothing about Chinese child care, but reading that the government wishes for more child rearing, might it be that there are other systemic problems like no access to child care facilities, a culture that doesn't value women and people exhausted by long work days? I might have read that this is part of the root cause in korea. But sure, some gay novels might also be the reason for significant numbers. Overall the Chinese are somewhat known for pragmatic approaches, why chasing illusions in this case? The total number of readers and writers can't be that huge can't it?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Chinese child care is the adults going to work and the older generation (the grandparents) take care of the child.

Or sometimes my mother brought me to her workplace and I just sat there playing a video game on the portable dvd player thing with the games loaded on a dvd (or a cd, idk the difference) and with controllers attached to it. (She worked at an electronics store as a salesperson).

My parents were in an arranged marriage (the consensual type, I think, but there was high pressures to enter into a marriage), and they argue a lot.

When we first immigrated to the US, my maternal grandparents weren't part of the "immediate" family, so they weren't allowed on the immigration visa, my paternal side of the family (who are already in the US) didn't like the responsibility of taking care of us (unlike my maternal side of the family), so my older brother who was around age 13-15 at the time when we first arrived, had to pick me up from school, and he resented having this responsibility, my brother didn't really like me, we were frienemies (now, present day, actual enemies).

But eventually, like around 6th grade I just walked home by myself. Most of the time, the house was empty (other than my brother). I barely talked with my parents, never had real emotional connections with them.

Childcare in China isn't that different from the US. (Well... in the US, kids get like a small child credit in their parent's tax returns, and some food stamps, but that's about it) The lower class is really very similar regardless of country. We the lower class people have more in common with each other than we do with the rich that runs our respective countries.

(If you are confused at the "Older Brother" part, my mother "illegally" gave birth to me. Then they sterilized her to make sure she can't violate the one child policy again. I was literally not even supposed to be born.)

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