And they also force people to buy plastic bottles? That is so mean.
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That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.
It works by applied statistics.
When you littered before - with the old cap - you'd have two pieces of plastic, now they are connected and it's only one piece.
I'm only mildy annoyed by the new lids and got used to them, but it's the bottle cap regulation is one of those that's purely better for statistics.
It reduces littering by bottles to around half, just because we count the pieces differently now.
Maybe we should better just start taxing by the amount of plastic used in food packaging, as a lot of the packages get bigger and bigger just to display the contents more visibility.
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Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.
Those float in the sea, we don't want that iiuc. Is a different plastic too, way more valuable from a recycling perspective (in Argentina hospitals used to collect caps to melt and make toys for childrens)
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I think the cap thing is more about littering because in those countries people litter only the cap for some reason?
When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.
People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.
Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.
So yes, they work. It is all based on data.
Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit
I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.
Or when it hits your nose.
Minority opinion, but I like those style caps. I like that I dont have to hold the cap. It's much easier on the go.
Yeah I got used to them fairly quickly when visiting Europe recently. At first it was a bit annoying - kinda in the way when drinking and harder to twist back on properly. But after a few days you get the hang of it, and in some ways I prefer that style now.
OP is a 2 day old account. If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a massive anti-progress astroturfing campaign all over the Internet, and it's little shit like this which quietly switches people into cynical brain rot. Memes are bumper sticker politics, and you should always be skeptical of them when they are pushing any narrative.
Also, the caps separated from the bottle fall through dinky cracks easier, like street drain covers) and get lost easier (or drop out of the bottom of the bin easier, etc.), being attached to the large bottle makes that more difficult to occur.
Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.
(By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)
I think the kind of plastic used in bottles is one of very few that actually are profitable to recycle. PET, I think. This is actually something recycling companies want. Most other plastic is just burned or shipped somewhere.
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IIRC the reason most caps used to be unrecyclable (many still are) is that they had a liner in them made of a different material. Because such caps were composite materials (using different types of plastic for the liner and the cap), they would make an impure product if recycled. The same problem applies if the cap and bottle are different types of plastic, which used to be more common.
(By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)
You would be wrong; PET bottles are mostly actually recycled, because it recycles very well (also, why would places go to the effort of setting up a deposit/return scheme for something they aren't actually recycling? Just throw it in the blue bag with all the other plastic that doesn't actually get recycled)
I remember they used to collect bottle caps to donate to charities that used it to make stuff for dogs and stuff
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I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.
If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.
Yeah, I know, but that doesn't lend itself to comments that get upvotes, and I'm a slag for it.
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Even worse, "it's mildly annoying, so I don't wanna!" Ofc would be better if people didn't throw em away at all, But alas
I like the convenience of not losing the cap
Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket
Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic
Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.
Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.
I've seen one if these, so that is what they are for!
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If you don't like the new caps then the company that made that bottle screwed up.
Exactly - some are perfectly fine. The cheap ones are terrible, crossthread too easily, get up in your face, dribble, or all of the above.
Sports style bottles solved the problem long before standard caps got in the game. They get disposed of together here either way, even if the cap gets yanked off for being stupid.
I don't understand how they end up separate in disposal in the first place. The whole point is that you can reseal the bottle and move/store it without leaking. If you're not actively using the bottle, it gets resealed to move or store. When you finish the bottle, you probably have the cap still in hand or very close by.
Tangentially, I'd love to see a Pfand type system here.
Cynicism, on the other hand - that's always good.
I love the smell of an amount of microplastics in my brainmatter that is equal to a plastic teaspoon in the morning. Smells like burnt toast.
On other news, there are biodegradable plastics. We should probably use those more. Sure we'll end up with biodegradable plastic in our bodies but basically it would be inert. PVA, PVOH and CMC for example are inert plastic-like chemicals that can coat stuff in foams. CMC for example makes the clear gel that you put on your hair as well as the gel-like behavior you get from various cosmetics. PVA/PVOH is part of non toxic glue. and what's in those molecules? Just carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, nothing more than what's already in our bodies.