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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine painting no cost childcare and $30 minimum wage as something bad. Ugh. Those poor rich people are gonna be slightly less rich!

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't think rich people will be slightly less rich.

Free child care is a no-brainer. More people working, more productivity, more taxes, et cetera.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

Free child care might inspire adults to have more kids. Even more people working, more productivity, etc.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 77 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

TFW your government literally just hooked a brain dead pregnant woman up to life support against the wishes of her family, to force her to give birth, but somehow tries to paint political promises of baby baskets for newborns as dystopian nightmare fuel.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't the baby just delivered a few days ago, very premature? Wasn't it also known that it had hydrocephaly? (both things not very compatible with life)

Using a braindead woman and her braindead premature fetus as political football against the wishes of her family.

That's so evil it's a fucking cartoon. Like twirl your moustache, give an evil laugh, and then steal a blind person's cane while jaywalking.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

And forced the family to pay for it all. Pure fucking evil.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

Not sure about hydrocephalus, but it was delivered at the earliest point the hospital was willing to do. The chances of the baby surviving are low regardless of other complications like that.

I learned after, the mother was literally rotting on the table. This was only done because it was a black woman without the resources to fight back.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

its consumption for boomers.

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 11 points 6 hours ago

How Evil...

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 67 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's amazing, all they need to do is write "socialist" and like Pavlov's dogs maga instantly react with no thought...

How to make maga hate anything: "it's socialism!"

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Damn commies!

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Calling shit DEI is socialism!

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 hours ago
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 100 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Baby basket may sound like a weird one without context if you're not already familiar with them, but I assume he's talking about a maternity package, or "baby box" which is a wildly successful program in Finland and other parts of Europe. It's a cardboard box filled with baby supplies, and the box itself doubles as their first crib. It's not legal in the US ostensibly because of the cardboard, but functionally cuz we like to punish women every chance we get. Anyway, being cardboard causes literally zero problems, they help to prevent SIDS, and they're cheap.

We should have been doing this for ages.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

How does it being cardboard help prevent sids?

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

They are two separate clauses i think

  1. cardboard causes no problems

  2. the cribs help prevent SIDS

I did a quick search and found this:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/03/26/521399385/states-give-new-parents-baby-boxes-to-encourge-safe-sleep-habits

So its not about the cardboard, its about the makeup of the crib itself

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Babies like pretending to be homeless

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 6 hours ago

I think he meant having a crib helps, not it being made out of cardboard.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 196 points 15 hours ago (30 children)

BTW $30 isn't like a crazy high number for minimum wage. The current number is well below the poverty line for families everywhere in the United States, and New York has a very high cost of living. Minimum wage is explicitly intended to provide "the wages of decent living." $30 per hour might actually be too low for New York City. $61,500 a year is barely going to pay the rent in the shittiest neighborhoods. https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/new-york-ny/

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

In Zurich, Switzerland, the cost of living is insane. It's similar to NYC that way. The difference is that their minimum wage is 23.90 CHF / hour which is almost exactly $30 USD per hour.

Because it's such a high cost city, people earning a minimum wage aren't living a luxurious life. But, they do live a pretty "normal" life. They can go skiing in the winter (getting to the slopes using trains and trams). They can go out to eat as a treat, or go to a club. They can buy healthy foods, and can easily afford their (mandatory) health insurance.

It means a lot of things are more expensive, which basically means the middle class and rich are subsidizing the people earning the least. And this is despite Switzerland being an extremely right-wing country by European standards. You really see the affect of high minimum wages when you're paying for things where a big part of the cost is minimum wage labour. Like, if you order food for delivery, you might as well order something expensive and luxurious, because you're going to pay the equivalent of about $20 as a delivery fee.

It's a system that seems to work a lot better than what NYC currently has. When even the lowest paid person is "comfortable", they have more pride in their job, and more confidence in their value. They know they're not as disposable. It also helps that Switzerland has much stronger unions than the US. 45% of all workers in Switzerland are covered by collective bargaining agreements, which is very low by European standards, but is way, way higher than the US rate of 12.1%.

There are already parallels between Zurich and NYC because of the presence of some extremely highly paid people, especially finance bros. But, Zurich should be a model for NYC, and with a $30 minimum wage, they'd take a big step towards that.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

Time to go skiing? NO. They should be working 9 days a week. No one should have time for anything except working to make the rich cunts even fucking richer :/

/s

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 6 hours ago

Everybody should have a minimum income that they can comfortably live from in every country, period.

In CH are all the restaurants etc. expensive due to the wages being higher? Or is it mainly due to extra food costs?

What if we don't increase the minimum wage, but increase the minimum income? Aka give people extra money if they work for minimum wage in certain area's like restaurants. Just a theory. (In NL we have had situation where the company would get extra money to compensate the higher wage cost, mostly the NOW during Covid)

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I live in NY, not NYC, and make $30/hr as a single guy. I live in someone's garage just so I can have a savings/retirement investment...

Rent at a legitimate apartment complex would eat every remaining dollar I had after my other expenses. NY is definitely expensive...

My dad joked that I need to find a wife with 2 jobs if I wanted a house and then paused for a second, doing the math and realizing that's actually true if we were all around the $30/hr mark...

[–] pugnaciousfarter 18 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

need to find a wife with 2 jobs if I wanted a house

Or you could split the difference and get two wives with one job each.

Or you could get four wives with a part time job each.

Or you get 8 wives with one job each and now you are making profit over the money you need to buy a house.

My point is

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

True... Math was never my strongest ability...

But I can't even get one partner, let alone a group lol

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You just invented inverse polygamy. You're not getting multiple wives because you have a lot of money but because you need a lot of money.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Nah, just the odd man in a female dominant polycule.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 109 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (8 children)

If you give your whole life of working hours to a business, the compensation should be a bare minimum of all of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Period.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with your point, but I'll also say fuck the bare minimum. Any business that cannot afford to pay a living wage has no business being in business. Poverty is exploitation.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 6 hours ago

I get what you are saying, but I disagree to some extent, at least from my NL point of view

Almost all small/local restaurants would have gone bankrupt during Covid if the government hasn't stepped in. A lot of theatres would go bankrupt if government subsidies would stop. And there are more companies that are subsidized by the government to help them keep afloat, either temporary or structural like in the theatre example.

Personally, I believe we should stride for a minimum income, not a minimum wage. Because the minimum wage does nothing for you if you wan't work (anymore). Currently in a NL (and other countries) you get a fixed percentage of your last wage if you get sick for longer than x years. I know people who live under the minimum income because of this and can never get anywhere in life because they get 70% from only working 3 hours a week before they got to be confirmed sick. A minimum wage increase does nothing a minimum (or universal basic income) does work.

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