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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 195 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (8 children)

USA could have spent money developing an electrified economy but the republicans are focusing on bringing back coal mining and reshoring shoe manufacturing instead.

This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

ETA - what I mean is that China is rampaging on in electrification, developing manufacturing skills, infrastructure, and design/engineering/technology around renewables and electrification. Europe is thinking about it but not going crazy to the extent China is, because legacy - China doesn’t have 100 years of cars and 150 years of trains; they’re building new. USA meanwhile is actively regressing under Republican policies.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago

Which kind of blows my mind. Coal miners should love EVs. There was a story in the news a few years ago about how nice it was for the miners to help someone in an EV, as if they should be mortal enemies.

Non-EV cars don't run on coal, they run on gasoline. EVs on the other hand can run on coal, natural gas, solar, wind, you name it - and still are more energy efficient than cars burning gasoline. In a sane world, coal miners would be throwing their support behind electric vehicles. The utility companies seem to understand this, but seems like the support hasn't made its way up the supply chain.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Especially when you see some of the tech being rocked in Asian cities

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't exclusively a problem of the new administration, or the previous. All administrations since the late 20th century have been compliant in allowing the offshoring of most industry

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

It’s not just industry. Now they’re killing the development of skills and knowledge in engineering (hardware, software) and design

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

Again. They already enshrined "billionaires get all the money" in the one legislative victory of trumps first term.

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[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago

The problem is systemic, it didn’t start with Trump. He’s just way more flagrant.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

But… but… those good ol’ days felt so good! We need to relive those days!

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I own BYD and it is a great car. Very pleased with it.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Heard it can be hard / expensive if you need to order spare parts and stuff like that. Anything to that?

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

as customers switch to Chinese EVs

Sure. That's the reason.

[–] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I don't think that's what they meant. I think they are just saying that people are still buying EVs, but they are just going to Chinese and other manufacturers instead of buying a Tesla. The article specifically calls out the stupid shit Elon has been doing.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago

Which is important because about a year ago the headlines were saying EV sales were collapsing. In fact, it was just Tesla having less market share of new EVs sold because other manufacturers got off their ass.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler was "incendiary" and "political" but I think there's a four-letter word so much better, so much more concise, that this wording is actual disinformation.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Journalists do Nazi what you're talking about.

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[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (42 children)

i hate musk, but i am not wild about our dependence on china either, so i am not really sure who to root for in this fight...

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Buy european? I mean if that's an option.

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[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 101 points 1 day ago (24 children)

I would say go with whatever company that doesn't have a CEO throwing Nazi salutes.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Yeah, the Chinese manufacturers are out to make money, and at least we know what to expect from them.

Besides, being profitable usually means making a better product than your competitors.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know that they're out to make money though. A lot of the Chinese manufacturers are now struggling due to the price war they instigated themselves. Huge production surplus but they pushed down the price so much they hardly make any money

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of it is also growing their market share and establishing their brand.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 points 17 hours ago

Brand recognition is important, but it's a dangerous game operating mostly on government subsidies. Once you have established low prices it's hard to reverse it

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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency :)

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Living in the boonies, I'm never going to get a bus going by every ten minutes so a solid market for good EVs is still what I root for.

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course, public transport has a limit and we can root for both as well, including protected bike lanes even in the boonies like we successfully see in the Netherlands

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[–] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The public transport bus I take to and from work is a Chinese made electric. It's a Yutong E15.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

I remember that one getting tested in my hometown.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 18 hours ago

How common are these in Denmark? 😮 don't feel like I've seen one, but then again it's not like I study the make before I get in the bus

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