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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (12 children)

lemmy.ml and its admins being the developers at the same time.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Lemmy.ml needs to be defederated from all other instances. It's literally an extremist instance of hate and bigotry.

[–] redsunrise@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Tankies on their way to hate private ownership and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie so much that they begin to love state ownership and dictatorship of the bureacracy

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[–] Schwim@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago

The negatives of a social site combined with the negatives of an unpopular social site.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Niche communities. Large spaces are built of small niche interest groups. The tooling around small spaces needs to be first class if we want the larger space to be healthy

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

The lemmy.ml instance not being treated the same as the rest of the Triad in regards to defederation

Some highlights from the link:

"Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

"See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558

CW: Original transphobic Comment from Nutomic

"NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

"If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

And a long list of bans/censorship and allowing the proliferation of known propaganda and misinformation outlets clearly demonstrating use of their instance and recognition to force a political narrative

[–] Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am currently working on a report on vote manipulation and the early results are showing clear signs of the some most prolific .ml accounts participating in brigading and vote manipulation.

I can't count the number of times I made a comment way deep in a chain that conflicts with .ml dogma, and after the first downvote, there are suddenly 5 more within minutes

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Issues that would be solved by time/gaining more users

  • Not nearly enough people to cover all the niche interest communities that Reddit does. At Reddit you find an expert on almost any topic to help you with your problems and you'll find information on pretty much anything. Lemmy isn't there yet.
  • Not nearly enough history. A lot of content is still good and informative after many years. Lemmy doesn't have a library of old-but-still-relevant content to search.

Issues independent of user count

  • Search sucks. Reddit's search does too, but reddit is easily searchable via Google. Lemmy isn't.
  • Onboarding is difficult, because you have to choose an instance, which is hugely important, but a newcomer has no idea what makes/is a good community to join

Issues that get worse with more users (aka, the potentially deal-breaking issues)

  • Lemmy scales terribly. Every larger instance needs to retain a copy of pretty much all other content out there, and each comment/like/delete/update/... needs to be propagated to every other major instance out there. Adding more instances thus increases complexity and cost instead of decreasing it. Running a major lemmy instance is already prohibitively expensive now, with just about 50k monthly active users. If Lemmy was to scale to Reddit numbers (1.1 billion monthly active users, roughly 22 000x the number of users), everything would just break down.
  • Moderation work scales just as terribly. Not only does an admin need to make sure the communities on their instance are moderated, but they also need to moderate all other communities on all other instances.
  • Related to the last point, there's some legal issues as well if an admin doesn't moderate all other instances. Since content is copied from other instances to your instance, illegal content (e.g. illegal pornography, copyrighted works, ...) are also copied to your own server without your active participation. That makes it legally mandatory to moderate all other communities.
  • Legal pitfalls in general. If lemmy becomes sizeable enough, all sorts of laws in regards to social media platforms will apply. That's one thing if the social media platform is run by a huge corporation with a legal department, but it's an entirely different story for a tiny group of non-profit idealists running the social media platform.
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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The lack of content compared to reddit. If you look at !learn_programming@programming.dev for example, there is only one post this week, and 4 posts this month. How is it that, with all the web developers and AI vibe coding shit, no one is actually asking questions?

When I was on reddit, I had to hide posts because there were 10 or 20 interesting questions every day.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

It's a negative feedback loop. There is a good chance programmers asking questions NEED the answer (homework, work-work) so they don't risk asking in low pop forums, making the forum low pop because there are no questions.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Onboarding. I think it'll be better if people promoted individual instances instead of Lemmy as a whole. As a whole, it seems vague.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

We need more users, to do that we need more advertising.

I was waiting to leave reddit for like a year before i found out about lemmy.

There's no way the twitter clone Bluesky should have absorbed the fleeing reddit users instead of this space that functions just like reddit.

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trying to be a Reddit clone.

Reddit was shit to begin with. It was a dumbed down forum site for people who found sites like Plastic or Kuro5hin too intimidating or complicated(!).

Slashdot-style upvoting would instantly solve a lot of "Reddit"-type problems, because instead of just good/bad, or like/dislike, the reason for the vote is noted, such as "insightful", "funny", etc., and you can then filter and sort comments much easier. Just filtering out "funny" comments saved soooooooo much time.

Another thing: Why don't creators of threads have the option to admin their own threads? It's their thread! It wouldn't be appropriate for discussion threads (for obvious reasons), but for interpersonal posts and questions, it makes perfect sense for the creator to be able to have control over what appears in the thread to keep it on topic and the trolls at bay. It's pretty rare to see a post where someone asks a question that doesn't quickly devolve into an offtopic mess, and the creator is usually attacked for trying to bring it back on topic. This has made Reddit useless for question-answering (and besides, the most upvoted answer is almost always wrong.)

Is the purpose of these forums to enable authentic conversation, or just to farm content regardless of quality (to be sold to AI companies, presumably)?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Another thing: Why don’t creators of threads have the option to admin their own threads? It’s their thread! It wouldn’t be appropriate for discussion threads (for obvious reasons), but for interpersonal posts and questions, it makes perfect sense for the creator to be able to have control over what appears in the thread to keep it on topic and the trolls at bay. It’s pretty rare to see a post where someone asks a question that doesn’t quickly devolve into an offtopic mess, and the creator is usually attacked for trying to bring it back on topic. This has made Reddit useless for question-answering (and besides, the most upvoted answer is almost always wrong.)

This would probably quickly devolve into OP removing any comments they disagree with

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. Not enough people.

  2. People here are way bigger smug assholes than even Reddit.

  3. Sense of invulnerability and mod neglegence just because Lemmy is defederated. People naively think that makes it invulnerable to similar issues as Reddit (like toxicity/hivemind/bad modding.)

Back in 2023 I joined Lemmy because Reddit got rid of 3rd party apps. At first I was extremely impressed with the content here. While the community was small, meme channels were hilarious and had fantastic content. Same with the nsfw communities. However, now all the communities are filled with AI slop, political ragebait posting, onlyfans subsciption bait posts, and various other trash. So as far as I'm concerned Lemmy seems to be circling the drain. I can't in good faith tell anyone I know to switch to Lemmy. If a friend were to ask me "hey man, how's Lemmy?" My honest answer would be that it kinda fucking sucks.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I may not understand how all this works but the very first page is mostly stuff that is 24 hours old or older. Maybe I am sorting it wrong or something but looking for the latest news is not easy. There should be a way from things that are older than 24 hours to fall off the front page. Also something like reddit enhancement suite would be nice.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can switch to "Top of 6h", "Top of 12h", or "New comments"

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago (48 children)

It’s just as much a left-wing echo chamber as Truth Social is a right-wing one - and that’s a problem in both cases. Some might say it’s fine because we’re on the right side of history and they’re not, or something along those lines - but the people on Truth Social think the exact same thing. No one’s views ever change that way.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The right wing instances are just defederated from this larger federated group because the people on them were unable to follow the rules of other instances. Repeatedly, they would throw tantrums and create loads of dupe accounts to spam shit when people downvoted their shitty views or their accounts got banned. If they were capable of behaving with civility and following the rules, they'd still be here.

No idea how active that corner of the Lemmyverse is these days, but they have repeatedly chosen to behave in a way that leaves instance administrators with little choice other than defederation.

I don't think there is such a thing as a left wing echo chamber. We bicker incessantly. The other day I was making a joke at the expense of the car-brain mentality and someone came at me for ableism.

I'm not mad at them, it's just illustrative of my point. We don't take shit from each other, and we take each other to task over jokes. The right will, meanwhile, forgive literal pedophilia, rape, and murder of each other. I'm sure as hell not saying we should, but we will never create an echo chamber as good as they do because of that.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I think the main problem is that there isn't much besides politics and memes. Most communities that aren't politics seem to devolve into meme communities.

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some might say it’s fine because we’re on the right side of history and they’re not, or something along those lines

I say it's fine because if there's one thing I've learned repeatedly since about 2017, it's that the single most effective thing I can do to reduce toxicity in my life is to reduce my interactions with conservative family members, coworkers, 'friends', and social media accounts.

It's remarkably effective. I interact with no conservative or known trump voter more than work or family obligations require. Haven't for years. Best mental health step I've taken in my adult life.

Not my fault they have all forgotten that "loudest asshole in the room" isn't a personality.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

There is also a dearth of cannibalistic viewpoints here. And Zoroastrians are woefully underrepresented.

I don't come here to change my views (though it happens from time to time), and neither do they. I'm not ignorant of their thoughts; I'm inundated with them every day. I don't need to interact with assholes here. I don't want to come here and watch people scream back and forth at each other, and I definitely am not interested in participating—there is a reason I've left other social media.

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'd much, much rather be in an echo chamber where BS is questioned and reality is not ignored than a conservative hellscape where basic facts of reality are ignored, like, "tons of CO2 in the atmosphere is totally fine, actually" or, "trans people are corrupting sports!".

Yea... fuck those at best extremely stupid people and at worst, vitriolic piles of trash.

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