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see linked post. I believe this would count as one of the examples given in the federation policy https://lemm.ee/post/401063 :

An instance which is knowingly spreading CSAM into the federated network

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we just defederated recently. Abhorrent server. We are also considering adopting the fediseer censure list because there are a lot of other problematic instances.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything they don't like is Bigotry...

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no "they". Every server has the ability to tailor its own federation list, fediseer simply spreads out the labor of actually poring through hundreds of different websites by providing a centralized repository of information. We can take that information and use it however we want.

I'm sure we at least agree that CSAM is completely unacceptable, right? So there are some servers that need to be defederated and censured. The only question is how many, and what other problematic behaviors also qualify, and the answer will be slightly different for each server.

Does that alleviate your concerns?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im just annoyed by the default instances on your website and their very common use of "bigotry" as reason to defederate, i don't actually care about what other instances do as long as Shitjustworks holds up to its name.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Ok, fair enough. It's not my website, it was created by db0 and rikudou. Many thanks to those two for doing important work for Lemmy 🫡

[–] Shepy@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not 100% sure on how Lemmy works with federation, but isnt there a risk of illegal content being mirrored to your instance if someone here hits a post from the bad server too ?

[–] Aiastarei@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Medias are only hosted by the instance from which the poster is, specifically for this reason. So if someone spreads CSAM on another instance into yours, the only mirrored content is textual but not the offending material

[–] Shepy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Ahh ok, thanks for the clarification. As i say wasnt sure, but thought worth mentioning in case.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Remote instances do mirror thumbnails.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Oh wow. Those folks are off the rails... read some discussions over there to see what it's all about... oooooh boy!

[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s probably a good idea to decouple from that car.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

says rimjob steve

[–] Kualk@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This creates a question. Not this specific content, but on the political side of the content. It may be illegal in US, but legal in Russia and vice versa.

How does fediverse address this?

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think this server should follow Estonia law

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do you have an example of CSAM being posted there?

Just mentioning paraphilias in the description is a bit light, especially with the rest of it being pretty tame and inclusive...

They could probably be talking about legal paraphilias like cars and tentacle monsters

Edit: ah nevermind they host a lot of kid stuff

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their biggest communities are those devoted to pedo shit. We can safely write this instance off.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Those are run by the insurance admins, too.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I don't even want to post it