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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] leftist_lawyer@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago

Pride in intellectual achievement would be a good start.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Real men take care of their neighbors and vulnerable people, not just themselves and their family"? Honestly I have no fucking idea lol. Not sure that sounds catchy enough though in comparison to the incel bullshit that youtube clowns are feeding young boys these days.

[–] Impassionata@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

the universalizing ideology of feminism for men is incoherent

and if you react with anger to someone, me, stating this fact, that feminism is and ought to be for women, you're part of the problem, shut up.

feminism is full of lessons on how feminism helps women, men should read feminists

but it's stupid to expect feminism/feminists to advocate for men's issues

and it's insulting to ask men to believe that all they have to do is be good feminists and they'll get what they need.

if you're a man and you want to write about how actually all men need to do is understand patriarchy, seriously shut the fuck up.

if you're a woman and you want to write about how actually feminism is good for men, seriously shut the fuck up:

stop centering a tool for helping women, feminism, stop centering women, when men is the topic. do you understand? can you understand? the topic is men.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't that Hasan guy do this?

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Sell it to women first and let them broadcast that they wont date any regressives.

Im assuming the regressives are mostly young cishet men

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[–] souperk@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

IMO it's about saving men from the patriarchy. I was recently on an interview of Judith Butler and I really appreciated its take that the movement needs to show empathy and compassion.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (15 children)

A good politic should not be sold.

People should chose it by themselves because that's the best thing for them.

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