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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 88 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Dude. We all saw this shit coming. A blind man could have seen this coming.

You might've seen shit coming, but most Americans just don't want to accept that the world they're used to is crumbling. It's annoying af.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really. Perhaps people could foresee some dissatisfaction with Trumps presidency, but this article is talking about a longer trajectory, as in building towards all out civil war.

I don't think that's a generally held opinion amongst americans.

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In fact it's quite common, most people I know were expecting civil war when the turd won the second time.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

most people I know

Is that a sample from which you can derive statistically meaningful data ?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's larger than 1, which is the number of people of people the article is holding up as some kind of Cassandra.

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well the sample size is probably sufficient, there's obviously a bias toward woke folk though.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's the problem. You're hanging out with too many "MuH vIoLEnT RevOlUtiOn!!!" types. If you want the system to fail, of course you're going to see every reason why it would fail.

[–] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

What? That's not what woke means. Aside from that, every sane person would want a system with Turd at the helm to fail.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hey actively hates ML here, for once the bastards ain't wrong. Even my largely offline friends can practically feel it, we're hoping for a Soviet or Yugoslavia style break up since us being on the West Coast would keep us a good bit from the immediate blast radius. The Great Basin, Sonora, and Mojave are great buffer regions.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not right then, just inevitably. As we are seeing lol

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

you can say anything is just beginning and there's no way to prove you wrong

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

chunes@lemmy.world ‘s reign of terror is just beginning.

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your reign of terror is just beginning

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Aww thanks ❤️

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately not all of us saw it, and some even still vehemently refuse to accept it

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Tl;dr: buckle up, buttercup

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Every "scholar" has been predicting the downfall of society since the beginning of time. What makes this one any different? The old "end is nigh" gambit for views and clicks. We need news to come back, not conjecture. Jack Webb said it best "Just the facts, ma'am.".

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, one of them is bound to be right eventually...

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

But that doesn’t mean any follow-up predictions they make or solutions they offer or even explanations they have are right.

It’s the Texas sharpshooter fallacy we commit every time we point to an expert for making a correct prediction and using that as a reason to trust anything else they say. This is because countless experts make predictions all the time and if we ignore all the wrong ones then we need to account for the fact that one of them may be right due to pure chance.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

His paper has been published on Nature… this because everyone can say the “end is nigh” but few people can come with mathematical models for showing it 🙂

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah this “scholar” is just every millennial who was told to sit down at stfu by every adult in our lives even now that we’re the adults it hasn’t changed

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It’s a long, long way down and there’s no climbing back so wave bye bye

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Great. Here's hoping this round of instability meaningfully undermines the Great Satan.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I enjoyed listening him when was interviewed at this podcast https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/164-peter-turchin

His methodology and arguments are quite reasonable and sounding.

I would recommend

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doomsday cults have been around forever. Goes back to the Puritans. This isn’t new.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There were apocalyptic Jewish sects for thousands of years before Christ. Heck, John the Baptist was an apocalyptic Jew that Christ respected. That is why there's even a reference to the apocalypse in the Bible. I personally blame the bronze age collapse, and the green Sahara ending.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Right but I’m talking about the roots of America, and the first settlers who influenced where America is today.