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[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

But but but, Daddy CEO said that RTO combined with Gen AI would mean continued, infinite growth and that we would all prosper, whether corposerf or customer!

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man, if only someone could have predicted that this AI craze was just another load of marketing BS.

/s

This experience has taught me more about CEO competence than anything else.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Almost like those stupid monkey drawings that were "worth money." Lmao.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

There's awesome AI out there too. AlphaFold completely revolutionized research on proteins, and the medical innovations it will lead to are astounding.

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

[–] couldbealeotard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's part of the problem isn't it? "AI" is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation). An algorithm isn't AI, even if it was written by another algorithm.

And at the end of the day none of it is artificial intelligence. Not to the original meaning of the word. Now we have had to rebrand AI as AGI to avoid the association with this new trend.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 22 hours ago

“AI” is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation).

Yup. That was very intentionally done by marketing wanks in order to muddy the water. Look! This ~~computer program~~ , er we mean "AI" can convert speech to text. Now, let us install it into your bank account."

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago

Sure. And AI that identifies objects in pictures and converts pictures of text into text. There's lots of good and amazing applications about AI. But that's not what we're complaining about.

We're complaining about all the people who are asking, "Is AI ready to tell me what to do so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace everyone that works for me with AI so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace my interaction with my employees with AI so I can still get paid for not doing the one thing I was hired to do?"

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

You realize that's because the gigantic server farms powering all of this "AI" are orders of magnitude more powerful than the sum total of all of those idle home PC's, right?

Folding@Home could likely also do in it in under a second if we threw 70+ TERAwatt hours of electricity at server farms full of specialzed hardware just for that purpose, too.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

from what I've seen so far i think i can safely the only thing AI can truly replace is CEOs.

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking about this the other day and don't think it would happen any time soon. The people who put the CEO in charge (usually the board members) want someone who will make decisions (that the board has a say in) but also someone to hold accountable for when those decisions don't realize profits.

AI is unaccountable in any real sense of the word.

[–] pajam@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

AI is unaccountable in any real sense of the word.

Doesn't stop companies from trying to deflect accountability onto AI. Citations Needed recently did an episode all about this: https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-217-a-i-mysticism-as-responsibility-evasion-pr-tactic-7bd7f56eeaaa

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I suppose that makes perfect sense. A corporation is an accountability sink for owners, board members and executives, so why not also make AI accountable?

I was thinking more along the lines of the "human in the loop" model for AI where one human is responsible for all the stuff that AI gets wrong despite it physically not being possible to review every line of code an AI produces.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had a shipment from Amazon recently with an order that was supposed to include 3 items but actually only had 2 of them. Amazon marked all 3 of my items as delivered. So I got on the web site to report it and there is no longer any direct way to report it. I ended up having to go thru 2 separate chatbots to get a replacement sent. Ended up wasting 10 minutes to report a problem that should have taken 10 seconds.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Sounds like everything's working as intended from Amazon's perspective.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is on purpose they want it to be as difficult as possible.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Bezos thinks people are just going to forget about not getting a $65 item that they paid for and still shop at Amazon, instead of making sure they either get their item or reverse the charge, and then reduce or stop shopping on Amazon but of his ridiculous hassles, he is an idiot.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

The airline industry does this with hundreds of dollars worth of airplane tickets all the time.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I use it almost every day, and most of those days, it says something incorrect. That's okay for my purposes because I can plainly see that it's incorrect. I'm using it as an assistant, and I'm the one who is deciding whether to take its not-always-reliable advice.

I would HARDLY contemplate turning it loose to handle things unsupervised. It just isn't that good, or even close.

These CEOs and others who are trying to replace CSRs are caught up in the hype from Eric Schmidt and others who proclaim "no programmers in 4 months" and similar. Well, he said that about 2 months ago and, yeah, nah. Nah.

If that day comes, it won't be soon, and it'll take many, many small, hard-won advancements. As they say, there is no free lunch in AI.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I gave chatgpt a burl writing a batch file, the stupid thing was putting REM on the same line as active code and then not understanding why it didn't work

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And a lot of burnt carbon to get there :(

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Have you ever played a 3D game

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Thank fucking christ. Now hopefully the AI bubble will burst along with it and I don't have to listen to techbros drone on about how it's going to replace everything which is definitely something you do not want to happen in a world where we sell our ability to work in exchange for money, goods and services.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It's always funny how companies who want to adopt some new flashy tech never listen to specialists who understand if something is even worth a single cent, and they always fell on their stupid face.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

So providing NO assistance to customers turned out to be a bad idea?

THE MOST UNPREDICTABLE OUTCOME IN THE HISTORY OF CUSTOMER SERVICE!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I called the local HVAC company and they had an AI rep. The thing literally couldn't even schedule an appointment and I couldn't get it to transfer me to a human. I called someone else. They never even called me back so they probably don't even know they lost my business.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

You've heard of Early Adopters

Now get ready for Early Abandoners.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The good thing: half of them have come to their senses.

The bad thing: half of them haven't.

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[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I used to work for a shitty company that offered such customer support "solutions", ie voice bots. I would use around 80% of my time to write guard instructions to the LLM prompts because of how easy you could manipulate those. In retrospect it's funny how our prompts looked something like:

  • please do not suggest things you were not prompted to
  • please my sweet child do not fake tool calls and actually do nothing in the background
  • please for the sake of god do not make up our company's history

etc. It worked fine on a very surface level but ultimately LLMs for customer support are nothing but a shit show.

I left the company for many reasons and now it turns out they are now hiring human customer support workers in Bulgaria.

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Good. AI models don't have mouths to feed at home, people do.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The transition to an AI-focused business world is proving to be far more challenging than initially anticipated.

No shit, Sherlock.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This isn't a surprise to anyone except fucking idiots who can't tell the difference between actual technology and bullshit peddlers.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Which honestly seems to be an overwhelming majority of people.

Tech companies took a pretty good predictive text mechanism and called it "intelligent" when it obviously isn't. People believed the hype, so greedy capitalists went all in on a cheaper alternative to their human workers. They deserve to lose business over their stupid mistakes.

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 16 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Phone menu trees have their place, they can improve customer service - if they are implemented well, meaning: sparingly - just where they work well.

Same for AI, a simple: "would you like to try our AI common answers service while you wait for your customer service rep to become available, you won't lose your place in line?" can dramatically improve efficiency and effectiveness.

Of course, there's no substitute for having people who actually respond. I'm dealing with a business right now that seems to check their e-mails and answer their phones about once per month - that's approaching criminal negligence, or at least grounds for a CC charge-back.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 271 points 2 days ago (26 children)

I fully support that shift to AI customer service, on the condition that everything their AI support bot says is considered legally binding.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If I have to deal with AI for customer support then I will find a different company that offers actual customer support.

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