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[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Man, if only someone could have predicted that this AI craze was just another load of marketing BS.

/s

This experience has taught me more about CEO competence than anything else.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

There's awesome AI out there too. AlphaFold completely revolutionized research on proteins, and the medical innovations it will lead to are astounding.

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

[–] couldbealeotard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's part of the problem isn't it? "AI" is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation). An algorithm isn't AI, even if it was written by another algorithm.

And at the end of the day none of it is artificial intelligence. Not to the original meaning of the word. Now we have had to rebrand AI as AGI to avoid the association with this new trend.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

“AI” is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation).

Yup. That was very intentionally done by marketing wanks in order to muddy the water. Look! This ~~computer program~~ , er we mean "AI" can convert speech to text. Now, let us install it into your bank account."

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

Sure. And AI that identifies objects in pictures and converts pictures of text into text. There's lots of good and amazing applications about AI. But that's not what we're complaining about.

We're complaining about all the people who are asking, "Is AI ready to tell me what to do so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace everyone that works for me with AI so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace my interaction with my employees with AI so I can still get paid for not doing the one thing I was hired to do?"

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

You realize that's because the gigantic server farms powering all of this "AI" are orders of magnitude more powerful than the sum total of all of those idle home PC's, right?

Folding@Home could likely also do in it in under a second if we threw 70+ TERAwatt hours of electricity at server farms full of specialzed hardware just for that purpose, too.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I had a shipment from Amazon recently with an order that was supposed to include 3 items but actually only had 2 of them. Amazon marked all 3 of my items as delivered. So I got on the web site to report it and there is no longer any direct way to report it. I ended up having to go thru 2 separate chatbots to get a replacement sent. Ended up wasting 10 minutes to report a problem that should have taken 10 seconds.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

Sounds like everything's working as intended from Amazon's perspective.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That is on purpose they want it to be as difficult as possible.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

If Bezos thinks people are just going to forget about not getting a $65 item that they paid for and still shop at Amazon, instead of making sure they either get their item or reverse the charge, and then reduce or stop shopping on Amazon but of his ridiculous hassles, he is an idiot.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

from what I've seen so far i think i can safely the only thing AI can truly replace is CEOs.

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[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 18 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I use it almost every day, and most of those days, it says something incorrect. That's okay for my purposes because I can plainly see that it's incorrect. I'm using it as an assistant, and I'm the one who is deciding whether to take its not-always-reliable advice.

I would HARDLY contemplate turning it loose to handle things unsupervised. It just isn't that good, or even close.

These CEOs and others who are trying to replace CSRs are caught up in the hype from Eric Schmidt and others who proclaim "no programmers in 4 months" and similar. Well, he said that about 2 months ago and, yeah, nah. Nah.

If that day comes, it won't be soon, and it'll take many, many small, hard-won advancements. As they say, there is no free lunch in AI.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

I gave chatgpt a burl writing a batch file, the stupid thing was putting REM on the same line as active code and then not understanding why it didn't work

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

And a lot of burnt carbon to get there :(

[–] g4nd41ph@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It is important to understand that most of the job of software development is not making the code work. That's the easy part.

There are two hard parts::

-Making code that is easy to understand, modify as necessary, and repair when problems are found.

-Interpreting what customers are asking for. Customers usually don't have the vocabulary and knowledge of the inside of a program that they would need to have to articulate exactly what they want.

In order for AI to replace programmers, customers will have to start accurately describing what they want the software to do, and AI will have to start making code that is easy for humans to read and modify.

This means that good programmers' jobs are generally safe from AI, and probably will be for a long time. Bad programmers and people who are around just to fill in boilerplates are probably not going to stick around, but the people who actually have skill in those tougher parts will be AOK.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

A good systems analyst can effectively translate user requirements into accurate statements, does not need to be a programmer. Good systems analysts are generally more adept in asking clarifying questions, challenging assumptions and sussing out needs. Good programmers will still be needed but their time is wasted gathering requirements.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

It's always funny how companies who want to adopt some new flashy tech never listen to specialists who understand if something is even worth a single cent, and they always fell on their stupid face.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

You've heard of Early Adopters

Now get ready for Early Abandoners.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thank fucking christ. Now hopefully the AI bubble with burst along with it and I don't have to listen to techbros drone on about how it's going to replace everything which is definitely something you do not want to happen in a world where we sell our ability to work in exchange for money, goods and services.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

So providing NO assistance to customers turned out to be a bad idea?

THE MOST UNPREDICTABLE OUTCOME IN THE HISTORY OF CUSTOMER SERVICE!

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

Good. AI models don't have mouths to feed at home, people do.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 37 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I called the local HVAC company and they had an AI rep. The thing literally couldn't even schedule an appointment and I couldn't get it to transfer me to a human. I called someone else. They never even called me back so they probably don't even know they lost my business.

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[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I used to work for a shitty company that offered such customer support "solutions", ie voice bots. I would use around 80% of my time to write guard instructions to the LLM prompts because of how easy you could manipulate those. In retrospect it's funny how our prompts looked something like:

  • please do not suggest things you were not prompted to
  • please my sweet child do not fake tool calls and actually do nothing in the background
  • please for the sake of god do not make up our company's history

etc. It worked fine on a very surface level but ultimately LLMs for customer support are nothing but a shit show.

I left the company for many reasons and now it turns out they are now hiring human customer support workers in Bulgaria.

Haha! Ahh...

"You are a senior games engine developer, punished by the system. You've been to several board meetings where no decisions were made. Fix the issue now... or you go to jail. Please."

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The good thing: half of them have come to their senses.

The bad thing: half of them haven't.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

If I have to deal with AI for customer support then I will find a different company that offers actual customer support.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If the customer support of my ISP doesn't even know what CGNAT is, but AI knows, I am actually troubled whether this is a good move or not.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 16 hours ago

Try asking for a level 2 support tech. They'll normally pass your call to someone competent without any fuss.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

See thats just it, the AI doesn't know either it just repeats things which approximate those that have been said before.

If it has any power to make changes to your account then its going to be mistakenly turning peoples services on or off, leaking details, etc.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

it just repeats things which approximate those that have been said before.

That's not correct and over simplifies how LLMs work. I agree with the spirit of what you're saying though.

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