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California Gov. Gavin Newsom is floating a federal tax boycott (www.cbsnews.com)

submitted 3 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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As tensions escalate between California and the Trump administration over immigration, another potential battlefront is emerging over taxes.

The spat began with reports that the Trump administration is considering cutting funding for California's university system, the largest higher education system in the nation with about 12% of all U.S. enrolled students.

In response, Gov. Gavin Newsom wrote Friday afternoon in a social media post that California provides about $80 billion more in taxes to the federal government than it receives in return.

"Maybe it's time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump," Newsom said.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm not mad at this at all I'm thrilled a politician is actually fighting back. He has a history of standing up against trump and the gop status quo

That said this is the first time there is any bite to it and the cynic/realist in me is saying it's cause he is gearing up for presidential nomination and election. I really hope he is not the Democrat choice.

~~if the good wife/fight taught me anything the democrats already have someone picked out and priming public for it~~

I just wish we had Bernie i wanna see that timline :'(

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I want the timeline where Carter won a second term and the Christian nationalists funding Reagan realized their plan didn't work and give up on it.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Frankly I’d be surprised if anyone even does their taxes in this next cycle. Give dumpster nothing. Cut him off. Let congress figure out how their gonna pay the military and ICE and golf with their own dime to keep this shit up.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most people have their federal tax withheld by their employers and do their taxes in order to get back their overpayment. Are we all going to not do our taxes and leave that overpayment in the government's coffers? Are employers going to stop doing the withholding? Neither scenario is very likely.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Go to HR. Ask for a W-4, change withholding to $0.

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[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 15 points 2 days ago

For people like me who have some savings and investments but don't want to run afoul of the law - Just take a couple years off. I'm working part time to cover my cost of living, and I'm not investing. So minimizing what I pay in income tax and taxes on dividends.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I hope people reading this aren't taking this advice seriously... The IRS will fuck you up. They have less funding, but that only means that they only go after low hanging fruit (AKA people who can't afford a team of lawyers to fight). They'll garnish your fucking wages.

Kinda crazy that the comment is so highly upvoted... I get the sentiment, but you're giving people really bad advice here.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t know how this would work, but do it.

I don’t expect Governor Greaseball to follow though, but I would wholeheartedly support this. And secession. I’d also support secession.

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Iirc, California is like the 5th largest economy in the world. Secession sounds like a great way to crash the US economy.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only reason some states aren't considered third-world is because of the federal system, a fact they so often forget.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know what is wild?

The US is the largest economy on the world, and if you remove California from it at #4 the US moves to....
#1 still. Several states make up the top 25 list of GDPs and the total combined is absurd.

The US is just massive in scale. It's fully running the global empire still even if it's waning. I do think losing California would be a massive hit for lots of reasons but just wild to think about.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 62 points 3 days ago

I'm not a fan of Newsom, but get it dude.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ain't happening anyway

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the military was being deployed before for so little reason then hold on to your butts, the entire US military will be thrown in to the mix and California will be treated as an occupied state in no time if they touch the money.

[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doubt they'll be paying much taxes if everyone is a prisoner in their own homes

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago

What is a donor state?

Indeed, cbsnews. What is a “donor state”?

Maybe if you could use that term a few dozen more times, other outlets could pick it up and it would eventually back up into Fox News’ talking points where they’d have to either lie utterly, or risk their viewers’ comprehension that red states take money from blue states. Charity, let’s say. MAGA heads would temporarily be offline.

[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, this is an idea I had after reading numerous comments on this post. You're all asking how this would work ... hear me out.

California declares its own currency, the "California dollar". Wages earned in California dollars wouldn't be taxed like US Dollars.

There are some issues to work out; I think the IRS does tax your foreign assets ... some ... but I think that this scheme could work.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Economically, it would be an uphill battle. The US dollar is strong because it's backed by decades of sound monetary policy (that will go right out the window when jerome powell's tenure is up) and a AAA credit rating for treasury bonds (that will disappear when the Republicans in congress finally drive us off a cliff) . A Californian dollar would be untrustworthy for a while as its central bank would need time to build trust

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if they got into a monetary union with Canada and linked Calidollar with the Canadollar with the same value and entirely interchangeable the way the Belgian and Luxemburg franc used to work?

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I've been talking to alot of people about something like this. If CA didn't pay federal tax, and all of it went to state, CA would make more money. Don't want to incite insurrection...but I think we could do alright by ourselves if push came to shove.

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[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would like to leave this here as a warning, because it seems relevant to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

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[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago

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