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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Considering all the crap that his Barons old nanny accused Baron of on a big Twitter thread last year - which is still all online and has never been challenged as untrue or sued or taken down by the very litigious Trumps, I'd say Elon's daughter (who hates Elon) should stay the hell away from Baron.

https://www.politicalflare.com/2024/08/nyc-nanny-just-revealed-some-very-shocking-and-disturbing-information-about-barron-trump/

Barron is an adult now, so we can admit he’s a shitty person already and well on his way to becoming a monster like his siblings.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 174 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 day ago

Why would you punish her? She didn't do anything

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 92 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She doesn't want anything to do with any of them though right? So this joke don't really work.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t that a cliche of all arranged marriages?

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sure but I think this joke is also leaning into the Trumps being transphobic and including Musk's trans daughter (sorry I forget their name). So the joke also comes off as transphobic in a way.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It didn’t come off to me as transphobic - I just saw the ancient historical precedent of the elite marrying their offspring to one another.

I don’t know OOPs intent, though, so I can’t make a strong argument either way. I’m just describing how I saw it.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair I think Vivian's picture was used because she is the only recognisable child of Musk, and also because I think most of his other children are still literal children. There is probably no ill intent from the original post and I doubt OP shared it for transphobic reasons. The joke should land, but it doesn't. At least not for anyone who recognises Vivian in the picture and knows what she has been through. That's the nature of comedy.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I think she was included to mock the notion of aristocratic bloodlines. Arranged (forced) marriages between royal families were always for the purpose of procreation and, well...

But yeah, you need so much setup and context and certainty around the bona fides of the OP that the punchline itself (if I'm even right about the intended punchline) just gets suffocated.

There's only one guaranteed way this joke would land and that's if Vivian herself had posted it.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotcha - I don’t know any of Musk’s offspring by sight (or even name; just that some of them maybe look like a cat walked across a keyboard?)

I knew he had a trans daughter that hates him but didn’t know this was her.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago

Her name is Vivian, and up until the last two or three years she is the only daughter he had. According to her, Musk selected male embryos for IVF (which is how all of his children have been conceived). I'm not sure how Grimes and Shivon got around that to have their girls with him

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The joke works regardless of whether she is trans or not. What you're saying effectively means that I shouldn't share the meme simply because a trans-woman is shown.

The joke works. It just ain't funny. Context matters. It's not just because Vivian is trans. It's because Vivian is not one of them. She's disowned and disenfranchised. If Vivian was a hypocrite and in line to inherit any money whatsoever the joke might have landed. But it doesn't. No big deal. That's the nature of comedy. A lot of it misses the mark. Like this meme.

[–] resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Musk’s daughter, and Trump’s son.

Notably, Musk’s daughter is sort of the black sheep of his family; Musk used IVF so he could selectively only have male children, and she is openly trans. She has a significant social media following, largely due to the fact that she has repeatedly put her father on blast. She deserves better.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Damn, she deserves way better.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Musk used IVF so he could selectively only have male children

Holy shit, is that even legal? I would hope no doctor near where I live would ever agree to do that.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

This is legal in America, but not in Canada. As a father of 3 sons, I considered sex selection for a daughter.

Hes rich, that word does not apply.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's weird, but why would it be illegal?

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because making any decision about an unborn child should be based purely on the medical needs of the child and if applicable the mother. Selecting based on traits is eugenics and I hope I don't need to explain why that is bad. But as I understand the reason Musk is having all these babies is because he totally believes in eugenics, which is terrible.

Edit: just checked, in most of Europe this is very illegal. Gender selection is only allowed if there are strong medical reasons to do so. For example a hereditary disease in the family which only affects one sex and can't be screened for in another way.

When you're rich enough, everything is legal.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Musk's daughter, maybe more estranged than his other kids, and Trump's son. The idea is that the "feud" between them could be ended by a marriage of 2 of their children.

Kinda like in Dune where the Bene Gesserit wanted to end the Atreides/Harkonnen feud by marriage and so ordered Jessica to only bear daughters.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capulets and Montagues, but like, way dumber.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh. I didn't make the R&J connection. Better now.

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I assume that's one of Melon Husk's daughters? Don't most of his brood hate him though?

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That is his (trans) daughter ~~that he disowned~~. She's not a fan of his.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 84 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Younger people always seem to transition better and I can only assume it's because of the early gender affirming care which is why that needs to be an available option for everyone. It's hard and expensive to undo the changes puberty causes and poor people still deserve to feel as comfortable as they can in their own skin. I'm cool with my yearly taxes going up a few dollars if it means more trans people can be happier with themselves.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, Instagram, I will not log in to view content.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

fucking magnificent clapback, holy shit

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Looked for some better upload, without much luck. But I thought you might enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sXFZkSX6dqw

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Rich people get better care

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That is the daughter he did not intend to have

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's nothing personal we just can't have them avenging you.