If anyone could make a conviction happen, it's Musk. He need only threaten to fund primary challengers for 10 Republicans in the house and ~15 senators.
He's got the money to do it.
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Lmao, two idiots fighting. This seemed kind of inevitable, they’re not compatible personality types to work with each other.
Elon definitely thinks he has more influence with trump’s crowd than he actually has, but I also think his position at twitter makes him dangerous to trump by undermining his ability to reach a lot of people who haven’t fully crawled down the maga conspiracy pipeline.
I don’t think he’s going to be able to shift much support to Vance ether. Vance and his ilk are just to weird for most trump supporters.
And leave JD Vance in charge?! Are you mad?! Can we just nuke the line of succession?
Careful, Elon, or you might get another black eye.
He's just so nutty.
Is it really as simple as the bill being unfavorable for Elno?
So as long as the bill had not harmed US car manufacturers for example he would've continued his bullshit loyalty?
I just don't really understand what's happening or why.
Sounds like you understand perfectly, you're just still thinking of them as rational adults. If you think of them both as toddlers, everything makes a lot more sense. Trump pinched Musk, so Musk is having a fat sad. Simple as that.
Woah, woah, dial it back Ketamine Elmo. You gotta save some for tomorrow.
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Yessss let the hate flow through you
That marriage didn't last long 😂😂😂😂 This is going to be highly entertaining.
The silver lining to the shit show of the last 9 months is that the Republican drama has finally gotten entertaining.
I think Trump might deport this African immigrant for being part of some plot against the government.
I mean I agree but what a little piss ant, lol.
Very "Kick me out of your club, huh? Well see about that ..."
Lol this is getting better and better! We knew they'd have a breakup eventually.
With luck muskrat will give us some damning evidence as he tries to win back the public's view via his new PR team lolol
Ok, so let me try to make sense of this:
Around the year 2010-2020, i and many other vehemently warned against the issue of rising national debt. Yet "experts" said "it's fine, we can make as much debt as we want to, nothing bad is going to happen because of it lol".
Starting in the last 5 years or so, lots of experts say "oh no, the national debt is way to high, that's a disaster, that's a catastrophe, we can't let that happen, who put us into this situation?" Just let me appreciate the irony for a bit. I fucking called it. I said this was going to happen. I was called insane. This feels really validating to me.
Anyways, since now lots of people, including economists, are angry that the debt is too high, people want it lowered. The obvious and straightforward solution would of course be to introduce a wealth tax (i.e. a tax on millionaires and billionaires).
In the beginning of 2025, Musk and Trump both agreed (at least in public) that the debt has to be lowered. Musk's attempt was to cut the federal government. Well, the federal government spends money for two things, mostly: subsidies (social security, medical bill assistance, ...) and data-processing (i.e., enforcing regulations, tax collection agency, ...). The first one costs most of the money, but reducing it gets the public angry (understandably) and is therefore a political suicide. The second one doesn't really cost that much, yet that is the one that Musk attempted to reduce to the point of dysfunctionality. Since it didn't cost much to begin with, reducing it didn't save a lot of money. In May 2025, Trump says "was Musk's DOGE all a hoax?" and the feud begins. Musk realizes that Trump is against increasing taxes for the rich and publicly accuses Trump of having no actual intention of lowering the national debt. This is where we are now.
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