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The grieving parents of a 7-year-old child who died hours after being hit by a car were charged with involuntary manslaughter after allowing him and his brother, 10, to walk home unaccompanied by an adult from a nearby grocery store.

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[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 29 points 5 hours ago

I'm SO mad at this story. There is no reason to charge the parents. As others have stated, helicoptering kiddos is detrimental, and they need to be allowed to roam their environment -- That can come at the cost of danger, but we cannot be expected to grow with 0 risk.

Sure, as a parent, you can state: 'don't go there', and 'always look both ways', but kids are kids and there's only so much you can enforce without being overbearing. In this scenario, without video evidence, there's no clear conclusion about fault for either the driver or the child.

I'm okay with letting the driver off (criminally, let insurance pay the family but don't put the driver in jail) and acknowledging this as an accidental death, especially since he stuck around and is complying. Charging the parents for negligence, though, is just fucking brutal when they are suffering the loss of a child, not to mention the impact on the older son, who probably is feeling an unreasonable amount unreasonable of guilt: "I could have held his hand; I could have reminded him of the road..." (not his quotes, my presumed internal dialog). Again, as others have stated, this is a city planning problem, not a parental one: If there was a way to walk to a grocery store that didn't cross a 4-lane road, that'd be a better option, but there are plenty of places where that is not possible.

These parents do NOT need the extra burden of being held legally liable for an accident and anyone blaming them for this without knowing them personally and being able to describe other aspects of their parent as negligent is just an asshole.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They got it backwards. I will hold the road planners, the city government, the driving license issuer, and the driver responsible. It start with poorly designed roads and ends with poor driver training. The parents are the victims here.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago

It's the parents fault for birthing a child into this hellscape into the first place. We've built this inherently violent landscape and your letting your spawns roam free? /s

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 7 hours ago

This feels like an origin story for a Punisher reboot.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Never blame the asshole in the car. Always blame someone else.

[–] Aragaren@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Did you read the article? The kid ran out into the street. The driver wasn't speeding or impaired. They did nothing wrong so what exactly do you want them to be blamed for and why are they the asshole in this situation?

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No he did not read. People here do not read and just go for "oh the poor kid" without knowing the whole story. Also they want to stop a vehicle going 45mph to 0 in a dime. Literally these commentator have never driven a car.

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

In Netherland, max speed is usually 30 kph (about 20mph) when there's any chance of interacting with other traffic (bikes or pedestrians). The idea of walking along a busy road where cars go 45 mph is ridiculous. Separate the traffic streams and give them crosswalk with traffic lights, or slow down the cars.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Driving a killing machine. You don't point a gun at anything you don't want to kill. You dont drive a car without willingness to kill.

Streets should not be a place its just okay to murder children.

I would argue, and i know this is kind of radical and lots of you will disagree, that we should not have places where its okay to murder children.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 seconds ago

You don't drive a car without willingness to kill

It has been a while since I've come across a statement that leaves me wondering how anyone came to such a disconnect with reality. Watching these mental gymnastics is making me sea sick.

I drive a car with a willingness to get from where I am to where I'm going, quickly. A comparison to a gun is just retarded: guns are killing machines because that is their sole purpose. The purpose of cars is fast transport of people and cargo.

Now, "murder" needs to show intent, and it sounds like you're concluding anyone who is killed by a car is murdered because drivers must intend on killing someone simply because they got behind the wheel. I'm going to go ahead and assume you either a) don't have any friends or family who drive, or, more likely, b) don't have any friends and don't talk to your family.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 1 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

I think your high ping has caused you to be disconnected with reality, try rebooting your modem.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 minutes ago

You're right. I switched to a wired connection and im much more reasonable now.

Of course we need designated child killing zones. How else will we cull the weak, and keep america strong?

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 41 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

This is absolute bullshit, just because the US is incapable of making good walkable neighbourhoods doesn't mean the parents are at fault of letting their childeren be normal.

No but see we need designated zones where it's okay to murder children.

Otherwise how will we get rid of the most annoying ones?

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Explain normal? If this was a street inside a subdivision, I would totally understand. Speed limit on that road is 45mph

  1. Either come up with engineering to stop from 45mph to 0mph in a dime
  2. Take care of your kids, watch the surrounding, be vigilant else don't have kids

Yeah, there just need to be places where its okay for anyone to murder children. These filthy fucking europeans just don't understand, because of their low birth rates, but as proud r strategists, americans need to be able to kill some of their children, and must have robust mechanisms for culling the weak.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Mountains of shame looking for someone to blame in the dum dum land of lowest common denominator. This Yankeeland, this imperialist empire, this empty vessel of lesser things, this pit of despair we lean into the Edward Bernays dreamland of sucking the tit of the rotton corpse of the rugged individualtic mother. Ohhhh the humanity. Ohhhhh the humanity thots and prayerzzzzzzz. Fascist are the useful idiots of empire and capitalism and fascism are like peas and carrots. The liberals are fascist. You call me negative and I think you are stupid. Welcome to the lords and ladies of the clown kingdumb. The leader is a follower ,the follower is a leader that is dead. If their is a hell it is inside your head. Nothing WILL EVER change in Yankeeland. It is like demanding for HBO in Alcatraz. You can not solve generational issues until the boomers in office finally die this won't happen in your lifetime. This evil empire is gonna set the world on fire.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 37 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I walked two blocks between home and school every day when I was 7. This is insane.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, in first grade I'd walk several blocks to school and back

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

Half the kids in my school lived in town, they all walked home. A lot of our streets didn't have proper sidewalks.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Back in the 60s, I walked to and from kindergarten in a school that was at least a mile away, starting when I was 5 years old. Once I could ride a bike, around 6 years old, a typical Saturdayor summer day meant hopping on my bike after breakfast, and disappearing for the day, with no phone, wallet, id, money, etc. My pockets would be literally empty. If I needed a drink of water, I would knock on a stranger's door and ask for one. The only rule was be home by 5 for dinner.

Everybody was a free range kid back then.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm so disappointed that I don't see these days coming back.

[–] disco@lemdro.id 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

5 blocks for me but it's the same thing.

Glad I grew up when I did and in Canada.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

About a Kilometer for me. Felt longer as a kid... My brother had to commute by bus at 8, because the school was fused together with the one in the next village.

The US are seriously weird.

[–] disco@lemdro.id 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Everything felt longer as a kid and I kinda miss it :')

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Frankly, I hated it. I am happy that as an adult, I can now walk a two-digit amount of kilometers without having to take a break and being at peace with myself enough to not get bored. I do sometimes get nostalgic about school, but not because of the walk. It felt like forever. In addition, being an unpopular kid that got into fights meant there was a non-zero chance of getting my ass kicked at times.

Yes, it contributed to me being a self-sufficient person who is not afraid of physical activity or picking my own ways. Still, as a 7-year old in winter with a heavy bagpack, I hated it.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Was the driver driving a child-killing American truck? If so, both the driver and car company should be charged with voluntary manslaughter.

They knew this was going to happen, yet they still bought and produced the child-killing tank.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Look, americans are proud R strategists. Maybe you sluggish europeans dont know what that means, but we need ways to cull the weak before we waste too nany resources on useless eaters, so designated zones and tools, in/with which it's considered okay to murder children are an absolute necessity. Doing it with our cars, integrqting it into our transit system, more than makes up for the loss of efficiency from not using trains and bikes. So how do YOU propose we murder children, then, huh?

Do you think we should just stop killing children on purpose? Fucking yankeephobic eurotrash.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I bet it's in a Republican shithole city in a Republican shithole state?

I don't even have to check

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago
[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This some serious bullshit not even the cops can't be that heartless ... Oh wait the parents are black ... in North Carolina ...

Also, there are designated child culling zones.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Racism explains a lot of court decisions in the US. Jim Crow laws never truly went away.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (24 children)

there is no evidence of speeding or wrongdoing on the part of the driver, therefore no charges have been filed.

He hit a pedestrian. If you cannot react to a pedestrian entering the road unexpectedly, especially at a crosswalk, you are, by definition, driving recklessly.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Is there dash cam? We are all just doing guess work at the moment.

Oh, so you think we shouldnt have designated places and tools for murdering children?

Why do you hate america and freedom?

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

City makes walking on foot a death sentence, offloads responsibility on people foolish enough to produce life in a world that wants us to die.

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